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From the Terasem 7/20/2022 meetup vid with Frank Tipler


There are other guest speaking, but for me, besides Dr. Prisco, the only one that matters is Frank Tipler. This is because he has contributed and still contributes so much via his cosmology and his experiment as well on the reason why the cosmos is not 50% antimatter, and 50% matter. This has impact on this Omega Point Theory.

I reco that anyone who is interested skip ahead to 1:59 to view Tipler.



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Ah, good old Frank Tipler.

As you all know, I have very little time for the modern mythology that is the Big Bang, at least not when it masquerades as ‘science’. I am, however, prepared to give some credence to Frank Tiplers synthesis of theoretical physics and Christian theology.

Here is why. We now know, from a great many observations and experiments and one or two practical technological applications, that Einstein’s theory of general relativity is an accurate model of gravity.

However, when Einstein moved on from updating Newtonian physics and turned his attention to cosmology, he made an assumption that has since turned out to be wrong, but which has nonetheless been a fundamental assumption of Big Bang cosmology.

Simply put, Einstein assumed that the universe as a whole must be homogenous. In other words, matter is, on the largest scale, spread evenly throughout space. According to general relativity, the larger a mass of a given density is, the more it curves space. In fact, if you have mass that is big enough, it will curve space entirely around onto itself. Therefore, if the universe is homogenous, with the same density everywhere, it must be finite.

Now, I said Einstein assumed that, on the largest scale, matter is spread evenly throughout space. But, was it really? Was this what observations proved? Actually, no, observations proved the opposite. What we observe is an INHOMOGENOUS universe, with matter organised into clumps of stars, galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters and so on. For an inhomogenous universe, when the density of a large section of space is less than that for small regions, the universe need not be closed over into a sphere.

But,for purely philosophical and aesthetic reasons, Einstein ignored the fact that all observations showed the universe is not homogenous, and he just asserted that it was. He justified this by claiming the inhomogenity we observe is just local, and on larger scales the homogeneity required for what would become Big Bang cosmology would reveal itself.

The problem is, it never has. Today, we know of inhomogenity and structure on a scale that boggles the mind, and is in COMPLETE contradiction to Big Bang theory. And, just as Einstein did, the Big Bangers brush this and all the other contradictions aside by appealing to speculation. Somehow, some way, future observations and experiments will show this theory, every aspect of which shows contradictions, will turn out to be correct after all.

Of course, any honest, scientific person would call BS on such a claim, which is what I shall keep doing. But, where Tipler is concerned, I have a bit more time for his ideas.

He believes that our struggle to stay alive will necessarily result in us becoming an intergalactic civilisation. We will gain such mastery over our material reality, that we will organise matter and energy in the universe so as to create the specific kind of Big Bang/Big Crunch universe required for his omega point. Right now, our universe does not look like a Big Bang universe should look, and there are very few good reasons to suppose our universe began in a Big Bang. But, you can’t really rule out the possibility that, perhaps, our post-singularity descendants will reconfigure the universe so that an omega point exists in our future.

So, yeah, I am prepared to give at least a teensy amount of credence to Tipler’s big idea.
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Well, teensy is fair. What I learned from the video is that Tipler parted ways with Penrose precisely upon Penrose's open embrace of the cyclic universe consideration. This view is what the German philosopher Nietzsche called, The Eternal Return. "From a bug to another animal, to a man, to a god, and back again, as evidenced in the Hindu faith, and its offshoot Buddhism, where Nirvana is the escape.

That was Nietzsche's Uber Mann, somebody who could quietly suffer along knowing that everything is destiny.

We also learned that Tipler is doing experimental physics on a shoestring budget, but has found evidence of a complex reason, "Why there's more matter than antimatter in the universe." The double bounce pattern in the Cosmic Background, to be precise.

Tipler also seems the less traditional Christian than he did 15 years ago. He pretty much leaves things up to future human-invented AI's to do all the heavy lifting, Extropia to get to a retrofitted universe and it's Omega Point Singularity. Tipler may have always been this way, but he did and probably is still a Convinced Christian. No matter.

Thanks for the opinion.
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