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Same sex mice give birth to sweet little micelets


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Hooray! Another victory for technology.
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Soon, it will be possible to make a baby just from code.

Some have suggested this may be the best way to colonize the galaxy. Just send the code on tiny robots. Let the robots build up infrastructure when they get where they are going, and eventually turn the code into people.

It is a creepy idea and God will put a stop to it!

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If God disapproves why didnt he just shape nature in such a way that it was impossible for such technology to exist? Have we outsmarted God?
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If God disapproves why didnt he just shape nature in such a way that it was impossible for such technology to exist?


Maybe he has and we don't know it yet. We might have assumed it is straightforward to travel faster than light until Einstein discovered relativity. Maybe same-sex and parent-less babies won't work for reasons we have yet to encounter.

However, that is not what I expect. I have a feeling that history won't follow the arc we anticipate. Something "weird" is about to happen.
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I have had a close second-hand brush with high-tech birth.

I have a beloved relative that went through IVF multiple times. After a few years, and multiple efforts, knowing generally about the costs involved - I wondered if they might be nearing a hard-point.

Incredibly, I - yes, me, the renowned "el cheapo" himself! - was going to inquire if they needed monetary help to continue if that was their quite expensive plan.

Then, before I progressed to feeling that out - it clicked! Now the happy mother-to-be is pregnant - and at quite a price, as anyone who checks will find.

I guarantee that some would disapprove angrily about this course of efforts done to achieve the happy outcome.

One bunch of such critics would say that nobody should use so much money for such an indulgence, when so many poor kids need adoption. The critics would advise - use the money for that, and for other "good" causes.

Happily, I am safely inured to that sort of thought. I know this from being able to remember my first introduction to that kind of idea.

Boy, did it ever hit me as wrong! At that age - a grade-schooler - I had zero into to the idea before hearing it.

A young lady who shared my mild mannered Catholic grade school in central Illinois opined on this in her short speech. The class all were giving some, I think - this was decades ago. She used the same kind logic - "Don't do (name a cause this person doesn't value) with your money. If you are a good person - use the money to do charity."

I can still almost recover the visual memeory, because she chose a target to defund that hit a hot-botton with yours truly. The space program!

"Apollo" was in a boom phase. How cool! Myself, my immediately older brother, my Dad - we all covered the news on that avidly. That's why I can kind of picture this young "do-gooder" standing there to this day. She framed the issue as "why shoot all that money into space when we can do so much good here on our mudball?"

Only later did I read arguments that backed up my instantaneous, young - and happily contained - outrage at that presentation.

Regarding this idea, which will undoubtedly be with us - printing peeps.

Does God want no printed peeps? I dont plan to print any, but I will cover a bet - and offer long odds - that as soon as it can be done, it will. Somewhere.

Anybody know how ya say "gimme 10,000 copies of that guy there" in Han Chinese?


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I will cover a bet - and offer long odds - that as soon as it can be done, it will. Somewhere.


A pet solipsistic delusion of mine is that I am actually a printed person. Here is how it works.

Billions of years ago, a race of humans perfected the art of building zygotes from chemical components and incubating them in machines. They collectively decided that it was undesirable to create super-humans or any other kind of drastically modified humans. Therefore, they always made humans that were within carefully defined naturalistic parameters.

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They also decided that, in order for humans to develop healthy attitudes, they had to mature in an environment comparable to the environment of their ancestors who lived in the time of war, pestilence and death. Otherwise, they would be shallow, self-serving and unsympathetic.

Simultaneously, they developed the ability to send probes into deep space that were capable of self-replication and ultimately setting up any desired infrastructure.

About a thousand years ago, a distant offspring of the humans that lived billions years ago, sent a probe to a star that was 250 light years away. When it got there, it began so self-replicate and set up infrastructure. Eventually, after it had built giant space habitats, filled them with "printed" plants and animals, and waited for those plants and animals to mature into a complete ecosystem, it began to print human zygotes.

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As with its predecessors, it was found to be undesirable that these zygotes mature in an idealistic environment, so it also built maturation tanks complete with mental interfaces that these zygotes would mature in. It supplied them with elaborate simulations of how life had been for the ancient humans billions of years earlier.

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The plan was that these zygotes would never experience the real world until, in their minds, they had lived seventy or eighty years as ancient humans that experienced hardship, illness and the constant fear of death. When the zygotes reached the age that they would typically have died in the ancient world, they would emerge from their incubation tanks.

When they emerged, they would be physically young, but have the experiences of someone that had lived seventy or eighty years in a difficult environment. They would be greeted by other humans that had undergone the exact same process, but with enough variety that they would have distinct personalities.

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They would be beautiful, young, new people that had an indefinite lifespan ahead of them and no hardship that they do not deliberately pursue. However, they would not be shallow or weak, due to their simulated upbringing.

They would be greeted by transmissions that had been sent from the people that commissioned them a thousand years earlier. They would also be greeted by transmissions from all the earlier "colonies" and possibly even the original human civilization that had started it all. Every one of these transmissions would have originated at least 250 years earlier, so they would not be able to communicate. They would just know that, as of 250 years ago, they are not alone in the universe.

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Even though I suspect that something like this is at the base of my existence, I absolutely hate the idea. The whole scheme cheapens life and makes it seem like a pointless, superficial, endless quest for absolutely nothing.

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Something is deeply wrong with Spike.

He thinks being psychologically crippled is a strength.

If he were not so dumb he would understand psychological traits are the result of biology, not simply conditioning.

Conditioning just fucks_things_up if the biology is set up the right way. As with spikes psychology for example.

Conditioning only works if the biology is set up right.

And even then a person can just simply have the biology where conditioning is not needed to create a decent person.

Some people are just born good people.

Some people are born with low-stress tolerance.

Child abuse at 5-6 is a random chance the person will get stronger from it. They could become a shitty-person instead.

You do not need a simulation of the past to make "strong" people. You will just get half the people as resentful people like spike popping out. What_a_shitty_idea.

Spike needs to rethink what a strong person is supposed to be. (not a resentful hardass old man)
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The solipsistic delusion I describe above applies only to my own experiences. Keep in mind that if what I describe above were true, I may be the only person in my particular simulation that has real experiences. There is no reason why everyone maturing in the new world would need to interact in the same simulation. They may not interact with each other until they emerge.

I can say with reasonable certainty that my experiences have not f'd me up. They have left me with emotional scars and lingering nightmares, but nothing that cannot be overcome. I would have no reservations about subjecting newly incubated persons to what I have experienced.

Maybe, if I understood your experiences better, I would not consider setting up a simulation that mimicked them. Maybe your experiences have been too extreme for the purpose of generating healthy personalities. Only you can be the judge of that.
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