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A Famous Argument Against Free Will Has Been Debunked


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Bereitschaftspotential is actually evidence that we are spiritual beings. We are life forces that only have and operate a body and brain.

The delays Kornhuber and Deecke observed are just the delays between the life force -- what Hubbard called the thetan -- and the mind. Actually the brain is just a battery.





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Maybe, James. For me, I'm glad to read that article. I bought it, and like many who did, set that aside and went on. We went over it a bit on one or two posts, here on EV or back on KAI.

I'm glad to be back with free will.


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Without free will we're zombies.
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Is that right? I thought a zombie in the philosophical sense of the word was a being with no subjective states. This seems different to a person without free will, which to me sounds like somebody who has subjective states (prick them and they feel pain; when they laugh they are feeling happy) but no actual control over the direction in which their life is heading (they may however, feel like they are making choices. It’s just that they are deluded).

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Yeah. I agree with exy. You can experience pleasure and pain as you're tossed around by the physics of the Universe. All with a voice over in your head that emerged from where exactly? It just pops up from your subconcious - thats the thing thats guiding your actions.
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