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posticon Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.

We have a forum dedicated to "Newsy stuff and politics", but RedQ decided to post this thread in MindX.

The thread title is blatantly political. I need a second, and then we can start voting. The entire reason we have a NewsFlash section is to keep the partisan politics out of MindX, which is a place that we should be using to discuss emerging trends in science and technology.

I'm not advocating for censorship, I'm advocating for keeping the forum organized as intended.


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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


I edited your post to put the motion in "big" font. That is required by our rules.

If this gets a second, I will post a notice on our banner and start the clock.

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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


I second.

I do so noting I will start watching my own posts more carefully on political content. My political feelings overtake me often!


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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


That's it then. The voting ends on Saturday, 9/14/2019, 5:21 pm. I count two votes in the affirmative. We need one more affirmative vote to have a quorum.

I will post a notice.

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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


Ok if the vote is to sort all political posts to Newsflash, which may or may be actual news, I third the motion. I have no qualms about moving my own threads around, so, it should be tolerable to all.
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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


We have a quorum.

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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


I vote to move it move it. I vote to move it move it. I vote to move it move it. I vote to...move it!
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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


There are now four votes in favor of moving the thread, we have only eight moderators, and I would break a tie in favor of moving It. Lucid posted his intention to move the thread over 24 hours ago.

Lucid, you may move the thread at your earliest convenience.

I have deleted all discussion of moving the thread that is contained within the thread.
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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


Thread moved.
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Re: Motion: that the thread https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t9784 be moved to NewsFlash.


What? What happened to 5:30 pm? "Well Hell, let's just execute him".

I vote against. Only Extropia voted for the "motion". Three others only motioned for the vote. So its one for, one against.

Extropia is very opposed to politics, yet most of his/her comments in the MindX forum are about his/her various schemes for a neo-communist future. For instance from earlier today:1st Age Reversal Results
Extropia commented that life extension would oppress the poor and empower the rich, as is his/her wont on most MindX threads.

Spike will say Extropia is writing about the 'future', so it's OK. Well, I was talking about the future of Argentina, too.

We have a subforum, Netherworld, explicitly stated to be for topics of a sexual nature, but James' posts concerning sex leave Spike confused. Spike says sex can be in NewsFlash, but that's not what was originally adopted. Sex belongs in Netherworld, as the subtitle expressly indicates. If sex doesn't belong in Netherworld, why would it belong in NewsFlash? I mean if not NW, then I guess it belongs in MindX, not NewsFlash. Spike wouldn't like that, because it doesn't comport with his vision.

Look, you guys are being fooled (not Lucid; Lucid is just playing games again). Spike wants to make MindX conform as much as possible to his original vision, but that vision was rejected for the fourm design we adopted. Spike wants to make MindX not a general forum, as is clearly stated in the subtitle and was voted in, but into a limited forum for science.

If that is what people want, then I suggest changing the title of MindX to "Science" and changing the title of NewsFlash to "MindX". NewsFlash becomes the default general forum under Spike's regime, so it should be renamed MindX.
     
Before voting on this resolution and related matters, I recommend all interested parties read these threads: MindX Matters and A Message to the Moderators: Restructure, Repurpose With Steemit.
From MindX Matters, Spike wrote:

"I suspect that Red wishes to think of this forum as a general intellectual forum, but I have always viewed it as a futurist forum. However, I could have misunderstood the intent of the other members.


I think that states the issue well. Old MindX/KAI was most successful when it was a "general intellectual forum". Most participants were not science oriented. Most participants here do not have stellar scientific credentials. The one thing that Old MindX and Escape Velocity were/are meant to attract are general intellectuals with diverse viewpoints. With diverse viewpoints you get sharp political opinions, and that was why we developed the idea of NewsFlash.

We haven't done a great job of attracting general intellectuals here at EV, but the goal should be to get more than just hyperlinks in MindX. Leave minds free to roam and maybe MindX will fulfill it original vision, which isn't Spike's.

Incidentally, there was a hue and cry when I deleted an administrator post on my Argentina thread. Lucid was the most shocked, his poor eyes filled with crocodile tears. Spike's post was spam and is a technique Spike honed at KAI (as Extropia often alleges). It was a justified deletion by a moderator (me).

Note Spike's supercilious chiding when I complained that one of my posts was deleted:

Moderator Misbehaving

I really don't care about the post at issue here, but the principle is important for Escape Velocity. MindX should be open to anything under the sun, other than topics that people feel more comfortable placing in a more specialized forum, including in particular partisan politics, which belong in NewsFlash.


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