Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. RayK convinced me that Solar should get another look. Spud posted some solar energy articles that promoted the possibilities.
So sure - at some point.
But in a post above, Spud can be read to imply that nuke construction has stopped. Nope! The overall share of power plants that are nukes may have have dropped, yes, due to older plants being shut down, and the creation of lots of new, non-nuke plants over the years.
Even so, more nuke plants keep getting built. Newer, much safer versions of pressurized uranium powered plants, and also a few Thorium projects. I also got turned onto Thorium as a nuke energy source due to a post by Spud.
Nukes are our best bet to fight "evil CO2," if that still keeps worrying people.
Fission will do the job, even if we don't reach the Fusion anytime soon. Fusion seems to keep getting closer every few years, with some great new discoveries - and each article then ends with that old "10 years or more, maybe" prediction.
Between fission nukes of various kinds, and improving Solar - no Q about it, we can handle this "evil CO2" problem.
Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. There needs to be a shelf life on proposed solutions, Doc. Otherwise the people who run government, attempt to build this stuff, and promise it works, and the writers who propose these methods, can simply piss away time and money.
I purposely challenge the crew on Reddit, with such questions like, "OK, lets replace the dirty with the clean, so, what'dya got that now works?" The normal answer is the crickets chorus because these people never thought of actually doing this, they just like being against coal. Even the promoters of thorium, or Nuscale, need a drop-dead date on actually producing electricity. I mean, !@#$ or get off the pot, whatever ya got.
Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. Extropia, You wrote:
I can only conclude that all those people found out something that persuaded them to take this issue seriously.
Oh yes they did! Money. Power. Position. Prestige. With the promises of huge new taxes.
I did a Master's thesis on geothermal. Was it a geothermal thesis? Not really, but there was money for geothermal, so it had to be twisted into that box.
So today, grants are offered to researchers if they can show global warming. Don't dismiss that. The whole AGW scam is orchestrated.
The Secretary of Interior under Obama was asked if she had any 'climate deniers' in her department. She said not that she knew of, and they'd be fired if they came out of the closet. Hey, way to enforce the party line.
The last article I linked above about the utter polluting of NOAA's climate data is a case in point. There is no longer any question that NOAA has falsified their data, but why would they squander their credibility on something that is provably false? Politics, and the fact that the media for the most part won't cover it. Most people don't know that a politicized agency has sacrificed a precious resource (historic temperature data) on the altar of corruption.
Most people don't know that it isn't the warmest year on record. Most people don't know that we are almost certainly on the cusp of a new ice age (see chart above). Most people don't know that Co2 greens the planet and plants would benefit from a tripling of Co2 in the atmosphere, without any threat to man or our ecosystem.
Every bureaucracy in the Western World wants to use AGW as an excuse for carbon taxes and more control over the energy business. The taxes would be a huge windfall to governments, and the control, oh the control, over Big Oil. They had it in their grasp, but the Internet, where information can't quite yet be controlled, thwarted them (that's why we are seeing so much blant censorship on the web today).
Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. Opps, knew I forgot something:
Why do you think solar power will never amount to a hill of beans?
In space, sure, but not on Earth. It's a low grade source of power and we have now much better sources. In the future, we'll have sources that are much better than what we have now. So, I don't see any need other than narrow speciality applications for solar. The desire for solar is motivated by politics ('free', not Big Oil, no 'pollution') and it wouldn't get a second look if based on economics. It's about as dumb as geothermal.
And can we please stop the slaughter of the raptors!
Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. >Every bureaucracy in the Western World wants to use AGW as an excuse for carbon taxes and more control over the energy business.<
Uhuh. This does seem more compatible with certain decisions than other courses of action. I do find it strange the way you can get one news report on how climate change is the biggest threat we face and that our carbon footprint *must* be net zero by 2050, and then the next report is on plans to add a third runway to Heathrow or some other plan which would seem to be doing the very opposite of reducing carbon emissions. Either we have some kind of economic growth psychosis, which puts economic growth above everything else, the health of our world included (so even if global warming is the biggest threat we face, we must nevertheless expand aviation cuz economic growth) or the threat is being greatly exaggerated.
It does seem like we are slow to respond to environmental challenges, though. A nature documentary brought attention to a kind of pollution which is undeniably man-made, and that is plastic getting into our oceans and harming marine life. Distressing images of dolphins and other sea-creatures dying slow deaths from being caught up in plastic rubbish, lead to demands to do something about this.
This was many months ago, but even now magazines aimed at children and published by the BBC still give away crappy plastic children’s toys. This inevitably requires even more plastic, in the form of a wrapping encasing both magazine and crappy toy in order to keep both together. Why has the BBC, who lead the way in highlighting the perils of discarded plastic, not taken action to stop giving away this kind of thing? It is just hypocritical to simultaneously decry the dire effects discarded plastic has on our oceans, while still handing out plastic toys with very little play value that are obviously going to be thrown away and will no doubt end up as more junk harming our environment?
Re: Catastrophic Global Warming and the Medieval Warm Period. Not all that convinced, no.
I have a hunch that ‘freedomtalk’ and ‘newswars’ are the kind of organisations that champion free markets. You know, the kind of people whose paradigm is based on the principle that capitalism the selfish pursuit of material gain can only be beneficial in the long run. That there might be negative consequences to pursuing infinite growth with finite resources just isn’t compatible with the mental OS these kinds of people are running.
Of course, holding such views does not mean their views on climate change are wrong. After all, all who are beholden to a paradigm are prone to confirmation bias etc, and maybe nature happens to ‘agree’ with this side of the argument.