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https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/02/longer-winters-are-coming-in-reality-and-will-partially-blunt-global-warming-for-50-years.html
Almost!
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The title of the article is "Longer winters are coming in reality and will partially blunt global warming for 50 years"

Twenty or thirty years ago, Al Gore said we were all going to burn to death in ten years, plus or minus. He destroyed certain children's minds. What a silly monster. Like some child's cartoon about something under the bed:

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We should worry about real stuff, like the magnetic polar reversal within the next how many years or the next millennial ice age.

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Can we beat the lies? Magic 8 ball says, "ask again later.."
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Spud,

Give that nice Mr. Gore his secret climate intel device back right now!

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It's 45 degrees out in cincy.
This is a February Thaw!
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Good news, Cold Global Warmiers!

That "sinking island in the Pacific" aint sinking after all - so you got someplace to run to, if "Global Warming" now means its colder, or something.

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-pacific-nation-bigger.html


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It has to be sinking, it must be sinking! The Narrative is never wrong and scientists never lie!
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You are right! After all -

consensus!

Con-sen-sus!!!
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Haha! As a surfer I have seen shifting sands all my life. The article makes it clear that sea levels are rising twice as fast at these islands, therefore they must be sinking whilst the sea levels are rising.

The most important thing to remember is that it does not help if the "growth of land" is merely shifting sand. Nobody can build on sand newly deposited, since it will be barely above sea level and unstable.

Global warming is happening. The scam of the Co2 issue with carbon credits, was the wrong way to deal with the issue.

As mentioned here http://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p2659#post2659 let's not laugh too much, since the problem is still with us. The worst part is handling the mass migration that is already starting. The water wars will be no fun. Nor will the infrastructure problems created, by influx of migrants, as the numbers grow over time.

Yep, just did a quick Google search and the islands are sinking, whilst sea levels rise.

"Environmentalist organizations have used images from South Pacific islands to illustrate the disastrous effects of rising sea levels. But a group of French researchers has found that the problem is much more complicated: The islands are also being pulled under by shifting tectonic plates. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/south-pacific-islands-threatened-by-more-than-just-rising-sea-levels-a-838675.html "

Also, regarding the OP(Opening Post), It clearly states:

'Modeling indicates that this will cause a few tenths of a degree of cooling.

This will counteract global warming for 50 years."

That means, the cooling effect will do hardly anything to mitigate the the problems of rising temperatures.

As I have posted before at other tech forums and at KAI, even the oil companies are getting ready for massive temperature increases...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bp-shell-oil-global-warming-5-degree-paris-climate-agreement-fossil-fuels-temperature-rise-a8022511.html

How is that "few tenths of a degree of cooling" feeling now?

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Wayne,

"Modeling indicates that this will cause a few tenths of a degree of cooling...for 50 years."

From down to up. Back again. Both kids on a see-saw and temps.

Gosh, we are so good we can say what the temp will be in tenths of degrees 50 years from now?

How about 40 years?

20 years?

One? One month? No, Wayne, the models never work well enough to hit such a mark even one month in advance. And we can't dissect the data and models the "noble Global Warming pursuers of truth" are using.

One huge reason these models always fail is that the two main components of our planetary weather, the hydrosphere and atmosphere are still beyond our ability to accurately model them.

But wait! We have "...Environmentalist organizations.." and "...a group of French researchers..." who attest to the "Alarming Threat." So do many other leading academics, at least so-say many articles.

OK, I'll give you this - lets posit further, that top industry leaders agree!

Gosh, the magic matching of industry leaders and academics and Gov backing - it must, most probably is right, then - right?

Wrong! That does not give us a reliable probability of good, bad, right or wrong.

We saw this empirically decades ago. The exact, very same "Trifecta of Excellence" gave us a big blooper mistake that still obsesses some today.

We ran around with it on more than one Forum back on KAI - I speak of "Peak Oil."

"Peak Oil" was the result of a huge research undertaking. Lots of big industry and academic and Gov backing that took a while. Lo and behold - they discovered that we were about to hit our peak of how much oil we could extract, after which it would tail off and ever after be less.

Thank goodness, they were doing serious science. As such, they kept good records of progress, meetings, debates on theories, etc.

They ended up projecting dates related to the "Peak," and various metrics. This made them vulnerable to being proved wrong over time, as they missed timetable after timetable, and graphs of everything went differently than they predicted.

Oops! Bad, politically!

But great for science! Thats progress, to get corrected when you are "headed wrong."

If the same kind of Trifecta of Excellence that gave us Peak Oil is behind the Global Warming Alarmism, it cannot loose!

Oh, wait, that arrangement has proven to be a bad predictor of good, bad, right, wrong- heck, anything as a general case.

Hey, here's a notion! When "despised deniers" ask questions, how 'bout the "esteemed researchers" answer fully about their data and models.

That is one reason we know in exquisite detail how Peak Oil was wrong.

The CO2 Alarmist/Global Warming Alarmists would be much more helpful if they would follow the "Peak team" and open up, and share all their data completely.

"The truth shall set you free." Maybe. As less and less of the general pub buys into the hype, maybe some of the "true believer Alarmist" researchers will get more professional.

Really do it right, like the "Peakers" did. Why not try it and see?

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