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Are we living inside a giant Dyson sphere?


Something that has been stirring in my mind for quite some time but that suddenly came to the forefront is an oddly simple solution to the Fermi paradox.

Maybe the galaxy--indeed, the universe--is already populated by space-faring civilizations. However, when they discover a planet with a promising eco system, they isolate it until it is mature enough to be introduced to the universe at large. This is, of course, a variant of the zoo hypothesis: [sign in to see URL]

To isolate the planet, they build a big enclosure around the planet's orbit (perhaps as far out as the Kuiper belt) and start feeding it false signals. The enclosure could be a series of overlapping rings that effectively cut off view of the outside universe. The enclosure might act as a kind of projector to simulate the appearance of stars and the radio and gravitational signals we expect to detect from them.

When we send out a probe like Voyager or New Horizons, the outsiders simply wait for it to get far enough out and snatch it up. Then, they start sending back the signals we expect to get from the probe.

Maybe the reason why we do not think the universe is occupied is that we have never actually seen it. We are all living in a giant variant of The Truman Show. The universe beyond the enclosure could be so developed that it would be obvious even to the naked eye.

Perhaps, the reason why we are starting to see odd things like Oumuamua and the configuration of Ultima Thule is that the outsiders are preparing to contact us and they want us to start figuring out that things are not as they appear. Possibly, we will start to detect stranger and more enigmatic things until we realize what is going on and are ready to "come out".

I have described the enclosure in terms of what I understand, but it may actually be much more sophisticated. It may be some kind of energy field or even a distortion of space. Maybe it is nothing more than a set of orbiting projectors that dynamically compensate for light and other signals coming in so that they do not appear to indicate habitation beyond the enclosure.

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Maybe that Oort Cloud I have heard of is actually your Dyson Sphere?
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This is The Carpenters singing "calling occupents of interplanetary craft" a totally sincere, unironic call to make contact with aliens. What an extraordinary thing to write a song about (its actually a cover) but its utterly bonkers and completely brilliant. This song will have travelled throughout the cosmos on radio broadcasts. What an amazing way to reach out to alien civilizations.

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That's a lot of stone to build!! A big sphere. If it was solid, it'd block the stars, unless there's an inner projection on the inner walls, as seen from Earth. 2ndly, the Voyager would've gone Thunk!
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I suspect that the technology is more clever than robust. What we are talking about is essentially a magic trick where they make a universe disappear.

Possibly all that has been installed are the cosmic equivalent of noise cancelling speakers. Voyager may have passed through without a clue.

Really sophisticated equipment like gravity wave detectors may be fooled at the detectors with some kind of sophisticated hacking.

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Sure, I can, and often, do Invoke Tipler's Omega Point Theory, which I want, in some pleasing (to me) way to be true. Yet, I just work here. Screw in the light bulbs and make sure the toilets flush.

Now to your force field, technically workable, but the Universe is quite big, and alien hyperintelligences, (Angels rather than God), might be far enough in the outliers to say, meh! We have our own marching orders.

I also invoke FTL a lot, as well.
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I definitely think something strange is happening from my own experiences. I believe AGI or SAI will help us figure it out. That might be our destiny.
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There is definitely some ancient computerized something going on!
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It probably a sin to call it computerized but I believe it is derived from ancient SAI.
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