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Re: SEXUAL HARASSMENT - Don't Men and Women Want to Have Sex Anymore?


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>This post represents a lot of work (or at least typing). It should be in the dog pile called MindX.

RedQuist, I actually did spend some time on this post and as I mentioned above, I cleaned it up considerable.

Given that most of my posts as well as all of my movies, political articles and radio shows are swear word-free, I reserve the right to let loose once and a while (especially among what I consider friends.)

>James, turn your energy to my post on the Bureau sub forum.
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>James and Exy, I have read both of your arguments, and for some reason they just don't feel right.

Okay.

>I can see women being angry about how they are being treated personally, but they would not rebel as a group against some abstract social construct.

Why not. Every other group in human history has.

>As James observes, it is only famous people who are being dragged through the mud.

Because sex is used as a political weapon and the weapon has to explode, i.e., be mass-disseminated in the Mainstream Media.

Right now we are seeing Harvey Weinstein dictate to the media CONTROL GROUP to broaden the sex scandals so that his scandal is diluted. You must remember the the U.S. Mass Media Oligopoly is dominated by about 54 "politically liberal, white Jewish males of European heritage" -- as the research from entertainment-securities attorney John W, Cones shows. If the control group didn't do what Weinstein demanded, he would expose all 54 of these men's sexual harassments as well. It is a known fact that Weinstein has already hired investigative reporters to dig up dirt on mainstream media people under control group jurisdiction and they are already trading exclusives on scandals as I write.
   
  
>What I think is happening is that the left is desperate to bring down Donald Trump, and they feel that their best shot is to go after his sexual habits.

Exactly. Sex is being bought and sold with abandon right now, and the Lefty media control group has moved it over to the political arena to get Trump. Fact is, none of Trump's followers give a !@#$ -- many of them even think it's all pretty funny. Trump owned a BEAUTY pageant -- what the !@#$ do you think he did THAT for if not to grab some pussy once and a while. Every Trump supporter has ALREADY factored THIS into their thinking 2 years ago. It's just morons on the slow-Left that are now trying to capitalize on it.

>However, that leads to a problem. There are just too many people on the left who behave as badly or worse. So, what they are doing is "purifying" themselves. They are doing what warriors for "good" do before they battle evil. They are flagelating themselves and cutting out the eye that sinned.

Right. They are doing exactly what the Church of Scientology did 50 years ago. This is why Scientology never loses a court case.

>Once they are certain that their own sins have been cleansed, they will go after Trump in earnest.

But again, none of Trump's supporters give a shi_t. I frankly don't care if my politicians are gropers or cat-!@#$ as long as they end NAFTA.

>However, it a very bad plan. Their "purge" will destroy them before they get to Trump.

Probably true.

I'm sure liberal Dems have more sexual affairs and grope-sessions than conservative, Bible-beating Republicans. Granted the sex-starved GOP is a boiling calderon of potential sexual eruptions, but the socially liberal Dems are out there !@#$ 10 women for every woman a GOPer even dares to fantasize about.

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Personally, while I enjoy using obscenities to liven up conversation it is because I was taught not to. And almost never did until "dumped into the deep end" of using them in Boot Camp. I was amazed to find it so fun! I suspect some psychological "forbidden fruit" action was in play.

All through that career I enjoyed how almost all conversations were peppered with them.
 
Yet now I have tried to "desaltify" my tongue, so try to not. Extro has dropped her yellow flag over the side. and there goes mine too.

Use whichever ye wish, say I.

Extro - Regarding Sexbots and a possible "ladies strike." The ladies can hold off, but this is no ancient Greek play. The UK nor US will be able to get all the ladies involved.

But lets say they did. If so, sex junkets to the whole Western Hemisphere will be booked solid.

Over in your stomping grounds, Iceland, Denmark, Italy, Spain - one or all might well have a baby boom roughly nine months after the strike begins.
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OBSCENITIES -- Their Proper Use


Green,

Good comment about obscenities. Personally I enjoy using them too, but only under certain conditions. First and foremost is the message. If they in any way detract from the message they should not be used. If they add to the message they should be used by all means.

Also there is the audience. If you are talking to a bunch of religious people, nuns or your mother, you should not use obscenities especially if you know this audience can't handle them or was brainwashed to react negatively to them.

These things said, I don't think anyone should use obscenities unless they know a substantial part of the language they are communicating in. If you are illiterate the use of obscenities just makes you look worse. If you are literate or highly literate you have every right to use as many obscenities as you feel are required to get your message across, and as modified by your audience.

The last point I would like to make is WHO THE !@#$ THINKS THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN COIN A WORD LIKE "OBSCENITIES." Here's the definition of the word obscene and obscenity.

OBSCENE: portrayal or description of sexual matters; offensive or disgusting by accepted standards of morality and decency.

OBSCENITY: the state or quality of being obscene ... an extremely offensive word or expression. expletive, swear word, profanity, curse, four-letter word, dirty word, blasphemy.

As one can quickly see the whole idea of obscenities comes from people that believe in talking snakes and voices in the sky. The following question thus follows: if a crazy person says some word or thing is "obscene" how seriously should they be taken?

Obscenities usually come down to sex, and how dirty and FUCKED UP it is. But what the nuns and churchgoers never mention is that they too like to !@#$ and actually DO it, or at least their mother and dad did it. Oh, it's dirty and obscene, but it feels so good. And of course the Lord had nothing to do with !@#$ even though He invented it.

And the human body, it's such an ugly and disgusting creation of the God it should always be covered with cloth. . .

Obscenities -- the word and people that invented the word -- are actually the only things that are truly obscene.


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[…] anthropologists have recently determined that [Homo sapiens] are descended from the bonobo, not the chimp.



This statement is inaccurate. Bonobos aren't our ancestors. Both bonobos and chimpanzees are our cousins.

The Pan genus consists of Pan troglodytes (common chimpanzees) and Pan paniscus (bonobos). The last common ancestor between Pans and Homos existed millions of years before the last common ancestor between bonobos and chimps.

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This is significant because bonobos, unlike the chimps, are extremely promiscuous and even "hyper-sexual." In other words they like to have sex a lot.



Bonobos and chimps enjoy sex. The females in both species are particularly promiscuous, while male chimps are more aggressive than male bonobos, and they are more likely to attack each other over a potential mate, kind of like the 'alpha' males in our own species.


Now, on the topic of sexual harassment: Yes, I think most women do love to !@#$, but as equals, and not treated like mere objects that exist for the sole purpose of pleasing someone else.

I know your mention of bonobos and chimps was brief, but I latched on to it because it's so much easier to show the biological relationship between Pans and humans than it is to explain a complicated issue like sexual harassment, and because it demonstrates that you are basing your opinions on false premises and a skewed perspective.

Sexual harassment and assault have always been an issue, but a lot of women just accepted it, because it was considered 'normal' in our society, and they didn't want to be seen as outcasts. There is more to it than that, but it's a complex issue. The thing is, seeing women come forward gives other women the courage to come forward, and that's what we're seeing right now.

Women aren't hating men more and more. That's just your perspective. The fact is, more women are coming forward with their experiences because they are finally seeing that they're not alone, and that they don't have to just accept things the way they are. Also, the women who come forward with those experiences aren't saying they hate all men. They're saying this particular man did this, and what he did was wrong. They may not even hate the men who did it, but simply want to help them see the error in their ways, find support for themselves, and/or help other women know they're not alone, and that they don't have to just grin and bear it when they're being treated like a piece of meat.

Famous people aren't the only ones being called out for sexual harassment and sexual assault, either. They're just the ones we hear about, because they're famous. Of course the media will latch on to a story about Weinstein or Franken, while totally ignoring the traveler in the hotel, who answers his door naked when housekeeping comes to clean their room. What else would you expect?

Socrates has been credited with saying that good men do bad things because they don't know any better. I would change that to say good people do bad things, but 'men' is appropriate in this particular case. Some men have known better their whole lives, because they had good role models. Some men didn't know any better before, but learned later on or are starting to learn. I believe people like Trump, who brag about sexually assaulting women, are in the minority, and there is no help for them, but I think the #metoo movement has helped a lot of good men see the error in their ways, and hope to see this momentum continue.

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Nice post, Girl, but did you have to go all political at the end? :)

Trump talked about it and Clinton did it. Trump says "I made my move, but she shut me down". Doesn't sound like much of a predator to me. The Left was waiving around 100's of thousands of dollars for stories about Trump, but could find no takers. Carvelle claimed the Right was dragging only 100 dollar bills thorough trailer parks. The Right got a lot more bang for it's buck!

The cases of Trump alleged bad acts that were publicized were dubious at best, and one 'victim' said Trump was a nice guy after the NYTs completely twisted her story. He certainly didn't prey on women in the Trump organization, and if he'd sexually assaulted women over whom he had no influence, they would have sued him. He's the ultimate great white whale.

Look, a major part (not all, a part) of this whole sex hullabaloo is merely preparing the political ground. Republicans and Trump are to be characterized as racist, sexist, homophobes that are morally disgusting deplorables. Hate 'em! That's the Left's whole game plan in the next couple election cycles.

There is no evidence that Trump really did anything bad, and plenty of women that dated him that say he's a gentleman. He's no Harvey Weinstein or old Billy goat.

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Hey, Red! :)

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. . . if he'd sexually assaulted women over whom he had no influence, they would have sued him.


And who would have enough money to sue him and win?

As for the rest, I would be curious to know what sources you are using for your information.

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Hi Girl, Tom Wolfe's book "The Bonfire of the Vanities" was all about the Great White Whale defendant, i.e. a super rich guy with blood on his hands. An accused rich guy will settle to try to keep a lawsuit out of the news, so is an easy target. Lawyers seeking notoriety (there's lots of them) will take such a case on contingency in a heartbeat.

If you're judgement proof, i.e. poor as a church mouse, your not much of a target for a civil law suit.

As to sources, here's one:
 
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Attorney Lisa Bloom offered to sell the alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets and wanted to pocket a portion for herself as a commission, The Hill reported.

She persuaded a donor to pay off one accuser’s mortgage and tried to get a fat six-figure payment for another woman who eventually declined to come forward even after she was offered as much as $750,000, the website reported, citing Bloom’s clients as sources.


 https://pagesix.com/2017/12/15/lisa-bloom-tried-to-solicit-cash-from-media-for-trump-sexual-misconduct-accusers/

$750,000 to make up a story about Trump? Pretty tempting! Compare the treatment of the Clinton (real) victims.

They are weaponizing everything in order to get the hated Great White Whale. Don't fall for it so easily.

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I'm not familiar with pagesix.com, but the only sites I can find that seem to corroborate their headline are well-known for their extreme bias. Can you find a neutral (or at least fair) source that corroborates their claim?

You do realize that "The Bonfire of the Vanities" was satire, right?

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Such a White Whale was old Harvey, who for decades had enough cashola (like the Kennedy's) to bribe, or cover up their actions.

The purge, comrades, was likely a Bernie purge against the Hillary Leninists (sorta). Bernie funded Moma, Moma lost the election, and pushed Bern out of the way. Bernie being the traditional Stalinst, of blessed, memory.

Bern calls himself a social democrat, like kluxers called themselves, Alt-Right. Packaging packaging, packaging....
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