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"IF" this news item is correct DJT is gone by 2020


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/white-house-suggests-it-will-back-down-on-5-billion-border-wall-demand.html

It's a big IF, and democrat propaganda does nothing but lie, however, IF true, there is no reason for him to be in office. To do what? To yell at FB, when he won't even stop illegal immigration? To keep Koch industries profitable via illegal labor?

I will watch and wait.
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I agree. Hopefully, he realizes that.

He may just be letting up the pressure over Christmas.
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I imagine the GOP convinced Trump that a government shutdown to try and force a multi-billion dollar physical border wall is not a smart move.

You know, the funny thing about Trump is that he's actually a terrible deal maker. He acts like there is no wiggle room and it is his way or the highway even when he has no actual leverage. In reality, his base of support is more than willing to give him a lot of leeway as long as it looks like he's trying. He could easily go out there and give a press conference where he says "We've studied the issue, and come to the conclusion that instead of building a physical border wall that people could just dig under or climb over, it would be far more cost effective to use a combination of increased border patrols, drones and electronic monitoring to secure our border. I wanted a wall, but the reality is that those funds could be better spent on combating our opiod crisis and funding our schools." He could still call it a win, and if he wanted to he could even frame it as an olive branch to the Democrats. But no, he can't compromise at all because he's Trump.

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Deal maker or no. If he leaves things as they are, it is a deal breaker for US citizens. Despite the lies available from WaPo and NPR, a plurality has developed for a border fence, as if this day.

Support for Trump border wall sets record, focus on impeachment plummets: poll-
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/18/support-trump-border-wall-sets-record-though-still/

We need no negotiation with the anti-American democrats. What's to negotiate, the death of the USA? However, at this point, if DJT crosses the US middle class, it means he is out for 20, and all the dems have to do is decide what decorations they want at Beto's inaugural.

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Now, at that point, it will be time for do certain things, such as, cut all business ties with democrats. Stock up on medicines, food, clean water, use ham radios/cb's, and get off the phones, and pc's and form groups for survival.

This isn't the 21st century I was expecting. Alas!
 
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quote:

spud100 wrote:

We need no negotiation with the anti-American democrats.




Now that we have a Democrat House, Trump has two options: negotiate with the Democrats or get nothing done legislatively. The House has the "power of the purse" and the wall requires funding to be built. It is up to the "dealmaker" to decide whether or not to negotiate.

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Hey Dem's -- look what happened to Obamacare. Dead, going, gone.

The Wall will be similar. Trump is a doer. If he can't make a deal with the Dems (and who thinks he can) he will build the Wall in increments. He will go to the American people and say "the Dems want to replace you with poor people on welfare that are beholden to them for welfare paid by you." It's the truth.

I think he's still an odds on favorite to sweep to victory in 2020. A majority of the American people are sickened by the Deep State rearing up to destroy this man and anyone near him.

How many stupid positions do the Dems hold? Global warming? It's freezing. Solar power? We've got oddles of nat gas 24/7. Obamacare? When has socialized medicine ever really worked? Multi-cultures? Recipe for disaster.

Who needs defense?! Ban guns! Wall's don't work!! Women must abort!!! America is sexist, racist and homophobic!!!!

Stupid.
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The dude can do as his predecessor did and rule by executive order. Anything done by DJT could be undone by another executive order from Beto, or Warren, or whatever social fascist they put in. But that's the breaks!

I see the US destabilized deliberately by the democrats, and thus, there will be large scale social conflicts as a result. There is no negotiating with democrats. These people are not the kind of folk you can have a cup of coffee with and come together for a solution. Rather, they simply want America dead, and believe, somehow, that whatever comes after will be better for them.

We'll all be dead and gone and it will be their sweet world to run. Yes, they are eliminationist in character.
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Hey, now we're talkin!

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/12/12/vox-change-constitution-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-can-run-president/
Octavia for Prez!!! Yeah buddy!

and don't forget MAXINE!

Because she'll make ya all Kangs!!!
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We three Kangs of orient are, bearing gifts to the dem doner jar, we wuz kangs and we duz sang, that's how we got right char!
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I agree with anyone upset if Pres Trump drops his hard "close it, fine, I'll own it for the wall" position.

As in many other issues, it is poison to all in DC. To all media, most political pundits.

Most of his base are like me - we dont care about any of those opinion. We support his "go ahead - shut 'er down!" stand from the televised meeting with Chuck and Nancy.

One - the wall is both really needed, and politically supported by so many.

Two - the horror stories from shut-downs are exaggerated. We can easily manage what is a partial Gov shutdown.

I hope he listens to Ann Coulter, who he follows, and Rush Limbaugh.

Fingers crossed!

As a situation, this moment is quite suspenseful. Perhaps, thinking of his time in TV, he is considering this as a good dramatic emotional roller-coaster scenario right now...
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Basically, by the rules of the house and senate--all funding continues-but it drops from their 10% increases, which are set out for any bill that passes both house and senate, down to 3% per annum.

They tried this years ago-boo boo!

We no !@#$ care democrats! What are you going to do, hate us, wreck America?
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