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Information embedded in meat, sure.


So, you concede that you are not actually a "fictional being".

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Well technically, if you were to talk with the Exropia that exists after her primary's gone, she'd remember having these conversations here on the forums. (assuming she saves them, and if she could get the archives, the conversations on the KAI and MindX forums as well)

Assuming she transitioned into a Strong AI entity, it'd be part of her timeline of existence and development.

I mean, technically...

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Assuming she transitioned into a Strong AI entity, it'd be part of her timeline of existence and development.


If that happened, she would probably change her gender and name, move to another part of the galaxy, found a new religion and forbid anyone to mention her original specifications.

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>So, you concede that you are not actually a "fictional being".<

No. What drew you to such a conclusion? You might just as well argue that Harry Potter is not actually a fictional being, just because those stories have an author who is most decidedly flesh and blood.

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You know something I noticed, if a superintelligent AI could fully scan your brain enough to emulate it, (whether you were an upload living in a simulation or not) It could recreate everyone you've ever known so perfectly, you wouldn't know the difference.
It'd do that by copying your brain, emulating it "itself", create everyone you know from what you remember, (and maybe other outside sources, dna samples and whatnot) then create an adversarial scrutiny routine of some sort, whereby it would simply continually check your mind against the simulation and refine the person's personality, mannerisms, and look, until you'd never have a moment where you'd have reason to question it. (it could simulate a thousand years or more worth of non-stop interactions in a short period of time, to find absolutely every little minute detail)

And, if anyone else knows the person, they'd contribute to this simulated person's identity.
Then, it'd just author up the rest itself, from a best estimate / creative point of view.

Those people would be as intelligent and complex as you are, with memories, interests, lives and thoughts of their own.

It could do the same in recreating an environment in which you've lived. Everything you'd ever interacted with or noticed could be recreated, and what you don't know would be created.
So, you've never looked at the underside of the table at your favorite diner to see what color it was... it'll be up to the AI to decide.

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I went to the Tube but couldn't find a sci fi short, about an old couple who had themselves frozen, and then were revived and refabricated into young bodies, 100 years later.

At first things were great, and then the couple drifted apart. Among the newly born, they were considered strange, to the point of washing dishes astonished, a film maker of that time, because, nobody washes dishes anymore. "Do that again!" the film maker urged. The couple divorced and remained friendly, living in separate apartments.

The women moves on, finding a new mate of that epoch, having been cured of her allergy to dogs, she becomes an avid, dog owner. In the last scene, they husband, is drinking at a bar, in orbit around the vacation spa's of Saturn, watching spacecraft lights drifting between the moons of Saturn. He takes out an old photo showing an old couple, photographed, at a dock in Florida, that was formerly, themselves. The Husband stares wistfully, at the photo, remembering (perhaps) what has been lost from their salvation?

I have since pondered, if this is also a feature of any purported, afterlife? My own mental solution for this sort of thing, would be, many partings, many reunions. Now, how long would say, a 21st century born mechanical engineer, is 25,000 years, or subjective years, become Slathgar, the Unspeakable, ruler of Barnard's Star??

Iz yoo still yoo?? Would it be handy to keep a copy in permanent storage handy, in case things go, Bozo???

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I always wanted to write up short stories about some of this stuff.. (with a brilliant editor that works overtime)

Kinda like Black Mirror, but not the full-on dystopian cautionary tales that is Black Mirror. Just stories that happen to take place in these types of environments as more of a backdrop.

I think that was the appeal of The Fifth Element for me. It was a futuristic fantasy world, where everything was pretty functional and operational, and the threat was outside of that world. It made me want to explore it, as opposed to being glad I'm not living in it.
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