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Or it could be akin to replacing less than 1% of the sugar with salt (won’t notice the difference) versus 100% replacement (definitely not the cake I was expecting).


It is an application of catastrophe theory. When a sufficient part of your biological brain has been replaced, your soul may depart.

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Personally I believe that "continuity" only matters in hindsight. Every night we lose consciousness when we sleep, but we wake the next day with the memories of the person who went to sleep and we don't question it because there is no other way for us to live.
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Every night we lose consciousness


It is not lost. It merely stops communicating with some parts of your brain for a while. Does your mother cease to exist when you are not talking with her on the phone? Does a television station cease to exist when the transmission is interrupted? Do you cease to exist when you go on vacation?

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Every night we lose consciousness


It is not lost. It merely stops communicating with some parts of your brain for a while. Does your mother cease to exist when you are not talking with her on the phone? Does a television station cease to exist when the transmission is interrupted? Do you cease to exist when you go on vacation?



I didn't say it was lost forever, but for some amount of time we are unconscious.
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You are never unconscious. You are occasionally incognizant.

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I sleep about 12 hours a day and have many dreams. I pray to God all the time for good sleep and good dreams and God helps me.
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>Does your mother cease to exist when you are not talking with her on the phone? <

This belief that a person who you cannot see or hear nevertheless exists has a name and it is ‘permanent presence’.

Evolutionarily speaking it is a useful assumption to have built into the psychological makeup of social animals such as human beings. We live in groups and there is survival advantage in taking into consideration what others are up to, including those who are not actually seen or heard but are nevertheless somewhere doing something.

But like all evolved psychological models this one has a flaw. Other than through grief people who are dead cannot affect us psychologically, unlike dead bodies which rot and become health hazards. Since dead minds cannot really affect us, natural selection had no way of evolving our minds so that we update permanent presence to take into account situations when a person really is not ‘somewhere’ doing ‘something’. In other words, when they have died.

How does this delusion manifest itself? Well, you hear it all the time when people talk about dead loved ones ‘I know you are out there somwhere, Dad’. This delusion was later developed into full-blown religious beliefs with elaborate ways of gaining entry into a utopian afterlife while avoiding the dystopian version (such systems of thought are often put in place by hierarchical socities wanting to justify the kleptocratic tendencies of the ruling minority).

In short there are no souls. We are information embedded in meat.

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So, you are meat.

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Information embedded in meat, sure. But information can outlive any particular substrate so long as there is both the ability and the desire to transfer it. And chatbots are getting more and more sophisticated and humanlike so it is only a matter of time before the meat part can be discarded as irrelevant to my needs.
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