The same article hints that The Proud Boys should be considered that and worse. That article comes from before the latest news about the FBI decision that slurs The Proud Boys.
The same article complains that the group sues news agencies that periodically call them "White Nationalists."
So the accusation has been out there long enough for lawsuits to have come and gone.
Yet, over the last years of Antifas' existence, most media will still not malign Antifa.
Compare that with how over the last few days many are running with the news that our still resisty FBI apparently calls The Proud Boys a "White Nationalist" group.
Here we are now with a spanking-new, young, eager to act new "Trump AG." We have a "Trump appointed FBI Director" who has now been there now for months. Gentlemen - clean that "resisty Stygian stable - FBI" out.
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists" About the FBI, I am a conspiracy guy, who believes that it was Hoover and Johnson, who had JFK offed. I used to suspect it might have been Castro and Khrushchev, because of retaliation for the Cuban Missile Crisis, and who was then deposed by the Politburo, for killing Kennedy, which could have endangered the Party. But, then, would not Castro, also, been deposed?
Since then, because of Hoover's bi-sexuality, his relationship with Clive Tolafsen, the spying on the Kennedy's and subsequent, blackmail, and the counter-blackmail, done by the Kennedy's on Hoover, I am betting it was these guys rather than the commies. Who would benefit the most?
On the Proud Boys, if all they do is slap antifa back, then who cares? If they are indeed, like the oaf in Pennsylvania, then as well as Islamists, and Kluxers, and commies, they present a "clear, and present danger."
I mean, law enforcement won't intervene when there's warning about a disturbed youth, or won't enter a school when there's a shooter, or a hotel room in Vegas. This is the best argument for the NRA.
A side issue: We probably need to look the mentally ill up, against their will again, to prevent shootings. This is partly wy there are shootings. Thank you ACLU, now, a solidly, comm org.
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists" I have coincidentally just happened to have listened to a JFK discussion today! That, along with past exposure to this stuff reminds me that between our different Mob families, Hoover and LBJ - any combination or one of them could certainly be behind it.
Many today are unaware of the stated intent of the Chief Justice who chaired the commission investigating it. To come up with some calming story. And out of it we got - the "magic bullet theory!"
With those ingredients, and many more involved - many conspiracies suggest themselves.
Proud Boys: I am interested because they have thrived and survived both street attacks, media persecution, and in various States various politicians have attacked them.
They have so far been a good defensive street fighting group against Antifa, along with some other conservo or liberation themed groups.
They are also a traditional mens'- club sort of group. And very explicitly not a "Whites only" or quasi-Nazi group. Many repeated attacks in media on those two points have made it necessary to be very clear about it.
The hypocritical double standard in comparison to Antifa as to how they are being reported and tracked by the FBI was the main motivation for my noting them.
With all that - I support them. Will they survive or die as a group? I won't cry if'n they die, rather simply wish them luck.
Institutionalizing those with mental illness:
Yes, our genius libbo elites bestowed on us yet another "new right." The right to be insane and live in your own waste products in a culvert!
Another wonderful modern addition to the Constitutional rights. I somehow doubt that our Judicial "Master Branch that shall rule them all" ever thought that through.
And our wonderful ACLU? Yes, another of their proud accomplishments. The intention, stated often back then: Set up community mental health clinics so that families can be saddled with the humans they had rejected already and sentenced to the cheapest legal warehouse the market would provide.
Shocking that the former inmates were not welcomed back home after the State padlocked the Asylum doors.
Happily - tech once again comes to the rescue. We have many poorly educated youts around today looking for work. I have seen and talked to a few.
The same "Jennifer Units" we were exposed to back on KAI by Extie can be used here. Management aided by Jennifer can run the mental health aides around just as briskly as our now all-too-well reported "Amazon Human Robots" are.
The ACLU and DNC would certainly protest this, if it became doable. They would claim the Neighborhood Mental Health Clinics as a denial of "the right to live in ones' filth in a culvert."
That new right is almost guaranteed to be found emanating from the penumbra of one of our "Bill-of-Rights" rights by one of our Dem-appointed Justices.
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists" Well most mass shootings seem to be mental health issues, bigtime. The ACLU is now The American Communist Lawyers Union. I usually hate the idea of confinement to a mental institution, however, it may save lives, and perhaps let the "offender" know that there are people watching? An inhibitor, even for the mentally disturbed who may obtain firearms. Yes, the democrats will use this as away to deny.
I am sure that Hoover took bribes from the mafia from the early 1930's onwards, which is why he never raided the mob till 1957. He must have felt forced to. He denied there was a mafia till the day he died. He blackmailed the Kennedys, via spying on the assignations and wire tapping. The Kennedy's, in turn, bugged Hoover and Tolafson's rooms at the Green Briar hotel.
I have seen an interview with Mary Lincoln, Kennedys personal secretary, who in the box, overseeing, that 1960 dem convention, said that the K-brothers took a call from Hoover, who blackmailed them into choosing Johnson, rather than their own choice, Hubert Humphrey. Lincoln said the Kennedy's decided that they had to chose Johnson. We can see why they retaliated in Hoover, using Irish detectives from Boston, NYC, and Philly, who had experience with the Army Signals Corps, and had done wiretaps as police.
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists" Spud,
My immediately older of two brothers was my guide as a callow yout into the maze of different theories of the Kennedy assassination. Back then we did not even have the "alt-sexual-persona" Hoover idea to toss into the mix.
Now to find out about that secretary and the phone call - fascinating! I would appreciate a link or something, so that I can look into it more and offer it to that same older brother, who I see regularly.
And "warehousing the mentally ill." That's been a huge issue for many decades, as the homeless issue has waxed and waned.
Senility attached to old age ties it to the same "warehousing" problem with many of our elderly.
Still, here in Florida, I have seen it done well even for the middle class. This State has "evolved" quite a bit of such care over generations of retirees deciding to move here.
I noted a way to improve the management of "warehoused" people.
My thought that we can just happily apply the "Amazon Robot Worker" template may have been premature - it looks like it's not quite ready to mass produce yet:
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists" The Kennedy thing I will have to look up later.
Isolating nutbars so they have difficulty getting firearms, is an excuse for democrats to do gun control. Yet, there is a need for this. It won't eliminate drug-shootings, but it will reduce some domestic gun killings, and focus on troubled people. This also is incumbent upon spending bigtime for mental health treatments.
On Amazon, Bezos and his boards of directors see themselves as getting away with it, via the bribery of politicians. All the rich do now, because of the (perhaps wise?) passivity, of the American people. "I can't believe you let me get away with it!" is the mentality of today.
For the EU and Amazon, I pretty much don't care, because the EU people sold out, long ago. Enjoy your Sharia.
Re: FBI Reported In Lots Of Media As Calling Proud Boys "White Nationalists"
Ok, Doc. Here is from the docu I saw on TV. I cannot vouch for its accuracy, but I expect it to be fact. Skip forward if you want to 2:30, and you can get the gist of what I claim, as well as my world-view. Could always be a disinformation campaign, to divide, (Russia?) but I still suspect its true.