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the Right tends to support big government with respect to the military, and there have been plenty of military dictatorships.



Interesting observation. Anarchy is a non-starter precisely because it is unstable and leads to rule by war lord. In a modern context, we'd call the war lord the 'military'. Military rule is authoritarian, and not desired by the Right, but law and order is. It's a bit of a conundrum. In the U.S., the military is under duly elected civilian control. So support of a strong military with a sturdy ability to defend and protect is not evidence of an authoritarian bent.

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I think that it oversimplifies things though, because those on the Right frequently try to exert control when it comes to social issues like abortion, gay marriage, recreational drug use and gambling.



Social issue like those you list, with the possible exception of abortion, aren't left and right issues per se. For instance, some of the more authoritarian regimes (China, Russia, Saudi Arabia) prohibit all these things, I think. These sorts of issues just reflect societal norms, and in the U.S. should be dealt with by duly elected representatives. When such issues are determined by courts, the Right has a problem with it.

Which brings us to abortion. The Right has a Constitutional basis for arguing against abortion -- the taking of an innocent human life. The court was and is wrong in Roe and it's progeny -- it would make more Constitutional sense to strike down abortion, not enshrine it in the Constitution. At least it is an issue that should be determined state-by-state.

Can we talk? Abortion is meant to cull the negro herd. Sanger was a strong eugenicist that wanted to exterminate the black race. Most Planned Parenthood clinics are located in black communities. Is it a horrendous but effective social policy? I don't think so, but the Left in America does.



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Social issue like those you list, with the possible exception of abortion, aren't left and right issues per se. For instance, some of the more authoritarian regimes (China, Russia, Saudi Arabia) prohibit all these things, I think.



Either way, they are examples of at least the American Right wanting to exert control over personal freedoms. I'm not saying that the Right tends to exert more control than the Left, but I do think that many on the Right want to believe that they support personal freedoms while actually only supporting the freedoms they agree with.

For example, you're more likely to see a conservative yelling at someone for speaking spanish instead of english - although to be fair you're also more likely to see a liberal yelling at someone for not using the right pronoun. As someone who grew up as an atheist in the deep south, I got to experience first hand how much conservatives tend to want to control folks' religious beliefs and activities as well.

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Which brings us to abortion. The Right has a Constitutional basis for arguing against abortion -- the taking of an innocent human life.


This is definitely a bit of a tangent, but I have a somewhat nuanced view of abortion. In my opinion, abortion is simply the act of a woman removing a growth from her body. Right now, at our technological level, removal of a fetus before a certain stage of growth is effectively killing the fetus, but killing the fetus is not the goal it is just a side-effect of the procedure to remove the growth. If we had the technological ability to remove the fetus and place it in an artificial womb where it would be brought to term, then it would be much harder for me to justify abortion as it is currently performed. On a practical level, I still think that bringing unwanted children into a world that is aleady overcrowded and overburdened is counterproductive.

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