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The Problem: The Left Is Evil


When I ran into this article on The Verge explaining how the new Purge movie has laid the blame for the origin of the completely fictitious Purge squarely on the Trump administration and conservatives, something finally gelled in my mind:

]With The First Purge, the Purge series finally says something daring

The mistake we are making is in thinking that our political system has two poles: Right and Left. In fact, it does have two poles. However, they are not Right and Left. They are right and wrong. The so-called Left is not the other side of a two-sided coin. It is the underside of a rock. It is dirty. It is foul. It is evil.

They kill babies and call it a "woman's right".

They misreport a black thug beating a Hispanics head into the cement and getting shot as a result, and they call it racism. When their deliberate misreporting is unearthed, they invent the term "White Hispanic" and continue to misrepresent the facts.

The "left-leaning" justices on the Supreme Court are obviously activists who seek to override the democratic process through legal decisions. The Left dreads the end of their reign.

A prominent US Representative, Maxine Waters, unambiguously urges constituents to hound and harass members of the opposite political party, and the media blames it on an "attitude" that started with Trump.

The other day, Jake Tapper was on The View. He responded to a tweet by trump in which Trump explains that the 91% negative reporting of his administration is proof that the news is "fake".

Jake Tapper cynically says, "This shows that what he considers fake news is something he doesn't want to hear." Obviously, what Trump meant was that with the improving economy and record low unemployment, this percentage had to be implausible. Jake Tapper knew what Trump meant and deliberately misrepresented it.

The left is Evil.

How does one deal with evil? If the Devil was attempting to seize control of the world, what would we do about it?

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Actually the problem is intense tribalism and confirmation bias that leads people to believe that the "other side" is evil.
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Actually the problem is intense tribalism and confirmation bias that leads people to believe that the "other side" is evil.


That is the lie that Evil had planted in your mind. There are not two tribes. There is Evil and those who have been deceived and confused by its artifice.

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(right + wrong)/2 ≠ egalitarianism.

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Anyone who claims ‘the Left is Evil’ (rather than the factually correct, ‘there have been occasions when Leftist thinking has resulted in evil’) needs to explain how come the Left ever came into existence in the first place.

Invariably, the people who hold this view of the Left are champions of capitalism. They believe that, if only government would stop interfering with business we would all be better off.

But such a belief is incompatible with history. If capitalism worked like these people think, socialism would never have gotten started. Why would it, when everything people need has been provided by the benevolent masters whome they happily work for?

The fact is that Leftism is what you get when people ask (reasonably enough, in my book) ‘what is the point of all this technological innovation and social upheaval if, at the end of it all, our lives are no better’?, and then organise themselves politically so as to wrestle something more from masters who believe they owe their workers nothing except the lowest wages possible.

Workers had to fight tooth and nail for everything. Workplace safety, reasonable wages paid when due, weekends, you name it. None of these things would have been granted without Leftist activists reminding bosses that, actually, more is owed to the people earning their profit than an impoverished struggle for survival.

Capitalism works best when there is not too great an imbalance of power between workers and owners. Given that there obviously was a huge imbalance of power due to the way capitalism evolved from feudalism with its lords and serfs the only way to ensure everybody benefitted from market competition was to inject some much-needed socialism into the system.

Having said that you can go too far left. God help Britain of that Corbyn and his Marxist shadow chancellor become the next government. Corbyn was a fan of the Venezuelan government. Says it all.
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Yeah, Ex, your team likes to rage against the nazis of adolf's time, all the while, shrugging off Joe Stalin's massacres. I used listen to beeb broadcasts provided by the US national public radio, and listen to the news and feature items on the way home from work in the mornings. With the Beeb, it was always how sorrowful the holocaust was, but if a yid got killed today, this was ok-if done by islam.
Poems and paens, to those in the dust at auschwitz, but goody-goody if they got smoked by muhammad, in france.

For me today, it is outrageous but now seemingly possible that the hands of Islamists and Corbyn, get to hold the nuclear football. I think it is not now out of the question, for an attack on the US by the former? "And they're buying a stairway to heaven," (Led Zep) by performing shaheed, against the Americans and perishing in return. By the way, I never, ever, listen to the Soviet, whinings of Pink Floyd, anymore.
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But such a belief is incompatible with history. If capitalism worked like these people think, socialism would never have gotten started. Why would it, when everything people need has been provided by the benevolent masters whome they happily work for?


All you have to do is look at a typical passage in a discussion of the industrial revolution and the answer is laid bare:

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With a long line of people willing to work, employers could set wages as low as they wanted because people were willing to do work as long as they got paid. [sign in to see URL]


Employers paid employees little because there was a glut of people willing to do such work. Where did all those people come from? Did they leave Eden to get a job in a factory?

And there were always more of them:

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However, as more immigrants came to the United States, more workers became available. These workers were willing to work, even if others were not because of unfair treatment. This lessened the effect of the labor unions since businesses had no shortage of workers. This is why most labor unions were unsuccessful. [sign in to see URL]


Socialism did not end poor working conditions. The growth and spread of industrialization and the actual products of their industry did. As people had better things to do than make babies, they eventually caught up to working conditions and things balanced out. Now, when there is a shortage of workers, employers are forced to pay them more. [sign in to see URL]

However, in the United States, workers are constantly undermined by illegal immigrants who come in and take their jobs.

Ultimately, all problems come from the Left:

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Now I can imagine the following objection to what I’ve said: whatever we may say about the crimes and horrors of the left, we cannot overlook the totalitarianism of the right, manifested most spectacularly in Nazi Germany.

But in fact, the Nazis were a leftist party. The German Workers’ Party in Austria, the forerunner of the Nazis, declared in 1904: “We are a liberty-loving nationalistic party that fights energetically against reactionary tendencies as well as feudal, clerical, or capitalistic privileges and all alien influences.”

When the party became the National Socialist German Workers’ Party or the Nazis, its program included the following:

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The National Socialist German Workers’ Party is not a worker’s party in the narrow sense of the term: It represents the interests of all honestly creative labor. It is a liberty-loving and strictly nationalist party and therefore fights against all reactionary trends, against ecclesiastical, aristocratic, and capitalist privileges and every alien influence, but above all against the overpowering influence of the Jewish-commercial mentality in all domains of public life. ...

It demands the amalgamation of all regions of Europe inhabited by Germans into a democratic, social-minded German Reich. ...

It demands plebiscites for all key laws in the Reich, the states and provinces. ...

It demands the elimination of the rule of Jewish bankers over business life and the creation of national people’s banks with a democratic administration.



This program, wrote Kuehnelt-Leddihn, “oozes the spirit of leveling leftism: it was democratic; it was anti-Habsburg (it demanded the destruction of the Danube monarchy in favor of the Pan-German program); it was against all unpopular minorities, an attitude that is the magnetism of all leftist ideologies.” [sign in to see URL]





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Yes, Nazis, Communists, Baby-Killers, Democrats, all the [sign in to see URL].

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Extie,

Your crediting of worker benefits to workers fighting greedy masters tooth and nail is erroneous.

I expect that you know this part, and were simply not thinking of it, because so many are aware that in Europe the quasi-aristocrat Bismark was behind the creation of the first version of todays welfare states.

That was in aristocratically, very much top-down, leader to follower led Germany. Anyone who fought tooth and nail there was quickly killed, not beaten. That state grew out of Prussia, very loosely speaking. As someone famously noted, Prussia could be said to have hatched from a cannon-ball.

Bismark wanted a welfare system in the new Germany he had been behind cobbling together. This was out of a desire to keep society not just intact, but as well functioning as possible. In that misty, early version of modernity, even way back then, growing modernity was leaving many small towns in poverty.

The far earlier anti-slavery movements grew from religious motivated abolition thought. The actual political actions to start that process eventually began - as I am sure you know - in the UK.

A guy named Wilberforce, a pastor, Priest, something religious. Preceding that, throughout the middle ages, crude abuse of serfs was accompanied, and more and more supplanted over time by a growing influence of New-Testament Christian values.

In some countries, such as pre-revolutionary, decrepit, decaying monarchical France, it was horrible for the peasants forever - but not even everywhere there!

You will see evidence of that if you choose to read "A Distant Mirror." Thats by the writer of "The Guns of August," Babs Tuchman. In "Mirror," she describes society at an early date in France when a particular Duchy was of comparable power with the Monarchy. The peeps were a reflection of not just the Dukes' greedy wants - but a very important demonstration of his generosity.

And here we are today.

Beggars getting more charity is the norm. Today, of course, thats not enough.

Nowhere should beggars be encouraged to keep begging. To become some kind of human sponges, as many are so encouraged today by todays social workers. Back then, when given help, they were also pushed and prodded to get back into a more productive part of society. And into a sense of self-worth; of "care for their souls."

Some religious community helpers still try to help them to. Sadly, many of those have been infected with PC, and have adopted the human-sponge ethos. Capitalism happily offers so much profit, and enough here are charitable, that many beggars truly do get lots of help beyond a few pennies.

I have been grateful to keep reading in several of your posts that you see many of the benefits of that capitalism.

I believe from some of your writing that you see the essential goodness of capitalism in most of the at least somewhat successful capitalist countries.

That presents a devastating comparison to all socialist dystopias. From the "self-destructed" USSR, the en-route to self-destructed Venezuela, and the former socialist paradise of Cuba - now Cuba, Inc., owned by the Castro family.
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