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Mobility Among the Silicon Valley Castes seems Minimal


A Wired article from a Sili Valley Facebook big earner notes his awareness of how four classes - with such little deep interplay, he thinks of them as caste-like classes, or just castes.

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"San Francisco residents seem to be divided into four broad classes, or perhaps even castes:

The Inner Party of venture capitalists and successful entrepreneurs who run the tech machine that is the engine of the city’s economy.

The Outer Party of skilled technicians, operations people, and marketers that keep the trains belonging to the Inner Party running on time. They are paid well, but they're still essentially living middle-class lives—or what lives the middle class used to have.

The Service Class in the “gig economy.” In the past, computers filled hard-for-humans gaps in a human value chain. Now humans fill hard-for-software gaps in a software value chain. These are the jobs that AI hasn't managed to eliminate yet, where humans are expendable cogs in an automated machine: Uber drivers, Instacart shoppers, TaskRabbit manual labor, etc.

Lastly, there’s the Untouchable class of the homeless, drug addicted, and/or criminal. These people live at the ever-growing margins: the tent cities and areas of hopeless urban blight.

The Inner Party doesn’t even see them, the Outer Party ignores them, and the Service Class eyes them warily; after all, they could end up there.

Mobility among the castes seems minimal. An Outer Party member could reach the Inner Party by chancing into an early job at a lottery-ticket company (such as Facebook or Google) or by becoming a successful entrepreneur.

But that’s rare; most of the Outer Party prefers working for the Inner Party, gradually accumulating equity through stock grants and appreciating real estate."

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Coming for you! First in Crazy Cali, then the rest of the US, then the world.

It's all there in San Francisco and Silicon Valley. A congested aquarium. A lot easier to see all those relationships and their lack of deep interplay.
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Media Elites form a mafia of Dems

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So let me get this straight: Billionaires participating in politics are bad, unless they're Trump. Successful businesses are good, unless they're run by liberals. The media is bad, unless it is right leaning.

Do I have that right? There is so much hypocrisy coming from the right these days that it is hard to keep it all straight.

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The media is all bad. The stuff under the Crats is hideous--. All propaganda-all the time.

Donald is an anomaly. He is a nationalist not a Globalist. Globalists are The Koch brothers, Zuckershit, Steyer, Silicon Vals. Hedge funders. They all are enemies of the US middle class. Occasionally DJT does something nice, like jaw-boning his billionaire fellows, and thus, driving down unemployment rates.

The Globalists are good with the Chinese military build-up and economic aggression-not me.

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Obama, Bush 43, Bubba Clinton never acted in US interests, and occasionally, the real estate guy does.
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lucid,

Consider the first post, and the points from that article, and any "future society" sci fi you may have read.

Does it not seem that this guys take is probably true? Simply thinking of the news we all have seen about issues of problems in San Francisco and Sili Valley?

It does to me, or I wouldn't have posted it, regardless of it appearing in Wired.

Also, simply your opinion - that locality is a sort of aquarium. It has much more instability coming from AI improvements and ever improved robotic applications to the home and workplace.

Do you think these castes will solidify or dissolve? I see them solidifying.
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Spud,

That is an interesting take, and clearly in line with prior posts you have made.

And given our national threats, good to have this man at the helm!
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quote:

Does it not seem that this guys take is probably true? Simply thinking of the news we all have seen about issues of problems in San Francisco and Sili Valley?


I think there is very little mobility in America these days under any circumstances, but if you go to the places with the highest concentration of wealth you'll see the problem magnified. Tech companies produce an incredible amount of money per employee, and a lot of them are in Silicon Valley.

What do you propose should be done? Are we just examining the status quo or do you think that these silicon valley companies are somehow bad actors?

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I see very little that can be done, as I have read an article about the newly elected mayor.

She was elected with at least one element of her platform I agree on - to try to move some of the bums - uh, beloved homeless out of the city, as the former Mayor was trying to do.

But she was barely elected, so may be uber weak. And in an uber-libbo city as you know, I'm sure, which means lots of opposition to moving the homeless out.

What I would do as a citizen is move out of Cali! Cali is now taxed high, and no longer would I be able to deduct that from my Fed taxes.

The economy is good right now. Especially for tech jobs, which that place is famous for.

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OK - I answered you quick and honest. You don't gotta, sure, but if you would -

Go ahead and answer what I asked:

Do you think these castes will solidify or dissolve?

I think they are solidifying and will keep doing so.
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quote:

Do you think these castes will solidify or dissolve?


I think the gap between the rich and poor will keep getting wider. The specific "castes" will likely change as technology and businesses change. The "gig economy" is a particularly efficient way to mix the best parts of automation with the best parts of humans, so I imagine that particular sector will be around for quite awhile.
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