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The summary is that the media is simply a branch of the DNC.

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Glen is correct!

And that is a wonderful silver lining to the very dark cloud known more commonly as the "Doomed Campaign of Hillary Clinton" -

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After the loss, they had some time before the President Elect would be sworn in. They had to figure out some way to spin the incompetance from her that was on record about her loss. Happily for her, she had reason to think it might be possible.

After all, as wikileaks has shown us, she knew the Press was in her pants-suit pocket.

Her staff grasped at the Campaign investment they had made in a smear campaign against Candidate Trump. It had a Russian plot element - the "Dirty Dossier - so they had a core of a story to work with.

Merging that with the long running Obama Era Federal investigation against Candidate Trump that had already begun using the Dems' own campaign research - that very same Dirty Dossier.

That was all tied together, and has resulted in a few things. One is the famous Mueller investigation.

As part of that "Russia-Trump-Collusion"-story-build-up, Russia was vilified "to the wall." They "red lined" that by simple instinct, just as they maxed out efforts to destroy Candidate and then President Trump in every other way.

Now, thanks to all that vilification of Russia, along with all else we got from Hillary...

We get to go back to "fear and loathing of the Russians."

I think that is really a great thing. Sure, Glenn Greenwald and anyone else who fight it will either win, loose or draw, like the Army in the Army-McCarthy hearings.

If some really curious Repubs in Congress jump on this, among other Russian related connections they uncover I hope to see reams of contacts between mostly Dems but also some Repubs with the Russians.

I was surprised to read that the late Sen Ted "Chappy" Kennedy sent a confidant to Moscow during the Reagan administration to offer a strategy to weaken the President politically and strengthen Ted on a run against him.

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More juicy tidbits, and a more detailed exploration of that, would be great!

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Yeah I remember Chappy doing this. Only, a Kennedy can negotiate world peace! Rigggghhhhtttt!
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Not the first high-up either too stupid to understand the danger of his deal, or the first too corrupt to care.

The Kennedys! Fellow Irish Catholic Americans! I heard from some years ago when they were alive how all had pics of the first Catholic President proudly on their walls.

When his sex scandals became known, many were taken down. Many others were left up, but now with the face turned to the wall.

I know from my Chicago past how many of us were connected to Prohibition crime, and we have that in common by wide repute with Ambassador Joe "Thats may Dad I'm appointing to ambassador" Kennedy.

Appointing the younger brother to Attorney General and Dad to UK Ambassador!

Let President Trump put that out in a "trial balloon tweet" to his millions of followers -

Proposed draft: "I just saw the appointments made by President Kennedy. Out of his example I may follow his tradition, and appoint Ivanka as UK Ambassador and Jarrod as Attorney General - Jeff seems so sleepy! Thoughts?"
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I wouldn't have gone down the path of hiring family in any case. With the Kennedy's I have the suspicion, that the Marylann tales, were perhaps, after all, accurate. Which may have pushed both Hoover, and Johnson, to act, which was having Oswald to an assassination. Especially, if they were the cause for the actresses, demise. (Right out of the National Enquirer).

There were reasons for the Kennedy's to go after Hoover, and these were the days when knowledge of one's bedtime activities, became known, they would have zero chance in politics. We're talking the 1960's here, and not the late 70's, onwards.
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They left Hoover alone for very good reason.

He is infamous for the political files he kept, which kept him running the FBI so long.

Notice - the Attorney General criticized him, and prodded him to address the "Tommy gun gangsters and bootleggers and organised crime"

And these days we have seen movies from back then about "Melvin Purvis, G-Man" and the hunt for Bonnie and Clyde and Dillinger. And certainly Al Capone.

He aimed at specific big-news gangsters - headlines.

Not at the tedious, much later project of figuring out algorithms and diagrams of Dons, Capos, etc.

For instance, Al's follow-on leader of the Chicago mob, Tony "the big Tuna" Accardo, died of old age in a mansion in a Chicago suburb.

All the mobsters that stayed out of the news, were left alone.

So why didnt the Pres just fire Hoover, if Hoover was not fully into that fight?

Hoover either had files on the shenanigans of JFK's election, or the (now we know) many, many sexual dalliances. Monroe for sure. But many others are now known.

And word to this and that Congressman - potentially many of them - from a freind of a freind of an FBI agent that it would be a shame if President Kennedy "upset the apple-cart" - it was probably everybody all around saying "lets not push J. Edgar today..."

And who was part of assassinating JFK? Hey, so many theories!

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Hoover took bribes from Genovese, and Lucciano, with Meir Lansky, as the bag man. Lansky's son was admitted to West Point too.

Sadly, this conspiracy theory looks all to plausible now to me. No, it doesn't take a conspiracy to fool me! No black helicopters needed.
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"...it doesn't take a conspiracy to fool me! No black helicopters needed."

Good point. Many things can be shown to be nasty without buying into this or that popular conspiracy theory.

The more one educates oneself on our elites and their lives throughout our modern history, which to an amazing degree are available, we see both reason to buy into conspiracy and to not.

But it is so clear that we can imagine many conspiracies being in play, because many have been exposed. Many!

Some that are exposed in books or academic or popular journals do not get wide exposure, and are not widely known of. Such as the "Teddy Kennedy - Russkies" issue we discussed.

A majority of the US lived in a dreamy fantasy of fair play and "truth, justice and the American way" almost uninterruptedly from our founding up to the 1940's and 1950's.

Dystopian, cynical writing began to appear and now dominates, opening us up to contention with hard notions. And then lard on the lefty propaganda from the left leaning academy from the late 1800's for goodness sakes. Not Commie way back then, but just look at where the lefties were and you see how we got so nuts by this time.

Knowing all this, the much higher level of conspiracy theory belief that abounds in foreign countries is easy to now understand. Asia and Europe and the Mideast have all head millennia to work over these notions. In this high-tech era, we may finally make headway against all this.

Along with LE Bridge Two, which I am still pinning my hopes on for Rays predicted appearance by '29, I now am more frequently wanting the advent of AI-mind links.

Obviously, this could be a road to true slavery or serfdom. But done right, it could mean so, so many more than today being well educated on history, the enlightenment, logic, rhetoric, math.

Oh what a world it might be!

The dystopians who still pursue all that stuff with earnest belief that it is good - they will tunnel deeply into that well of weirdness using the same AI option if thats what they want to do.
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