The opposition media used Stormy Daniels... https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t2110 Runboard| The opposition media used Stormy Daniels... en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:32:45 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:32:45 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8133,from=rss#post8133https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8133,from=rss#post8133quote: I am confident that you understand that this "use" by Candidate Trump was "fair use," and benefitted both parties as far as both parties publicly expressed it. Sure, just like the way Stormy was "used" by the media to attack Trump, but also raised her profile dramatically and made her a household name, with all the benefits that entails. Win-win. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2018/04/06/how-much-money-is-stormy-daniels-making-from-her-alleged-affair-with-trump/#53d1b8b4290f quote:Stormy’s essentially become the most famous porn star of all time,” says Alec Helmy, publisher of adult industry news outlet XBIZ. “And with that level of fame comes a windfall of opportunity.” Daniels landed on Jimmy Kimmel, got a character on Saturday Night Live, inked a more lucrative deal to direct adult films—and hit the touring circuit in a big way, tripling her bookings at strip clubs across the country while commanding more than double her previous appearance fees. Based on interviews with industry experts, Forbes estimates that Daniels’ annual earnings—thought to be in the low six-figure range before the scandal broke—will likely double this year, at the very least. nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:35:20 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8131,from=rss#post8131https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8131,from=rss#post8131"He "used" them..." Indeed. And related to this, you will fully Grok the comment I am about to make if you share with me the experience of Covey training. Ah! Even if not - it has been so influential that the classic term I'm centering on is probably familiar to you anyway. From my earlier posts, I am confident that you understand that this "use" by Candidate Trump was "fair use," and benefitted both parties as far as both parties publicly expressed it. You could say: "They both "won" when he "used" them against Hillary." A use of that nature fits very nicely as what Covey calls a "Win-Win" situation. It's almost as though Steve Covey was "in tune" with an idea from what, in his Newtonian frame of perception - would be his future. An idea to which todays physics replies, well - mebbe. In theory, mebbe, sure, some vibrating thread or harmonic in the "quantum foam"... Quantum foam! Our bleeding edge modern analogue to early modern "aether"...OK, Steves' brain back then in his "now" is in some way tuned into it, far below consciousness, via once again the quantum route. Some have posited that our consciousnous is not just the result of clunky neurons and clumps of charged neurotransmitters being passed around. Along with the mechanical process we are still logging and measuring in the detailed examination of our grey mush - "quantum tunnelling" may be connected to the function of our minds: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016787601500046X Ok, fine, sure. Steve is, right now, in our past in terms of B-Time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1WfFkp4puw There he is, preparing one of his so-successful training presentations, working on paring away extraneous stuff and seeing ways to re-word the pearls that remain. Something is "niggling at him." He recognises this feeling as possible connections possibly being in formation. Recognising this feeling is a personal habit he has long cultivated. He methodically closes down his work effort, trying to meditate on that feeling. He goes to his favorite meditation chair, and continues the effort. Later that night, while asleep, the integration of his days' events are involved with what to us is still a process we are figuring out. As memes, thoughts and feelings percolate, the foam foams and currents move within Steves sleeping noggin in his "now," and our Newtonian "then." Something within him sleeping brain senses way back then something from what to his Newtonian consciousness was his future - our "now." Impacts from of an idea that has been reverberating in recent reality - from our Newtonian perception - so powerfully. The idea of "too much winning" and "I need more winning." Those phrases, ideas and issues were repeated and enjoyed and reviled by so many minds so often... ...reactions to them may well "vibrate and bounce around" in the quantum foam. Finally, in his time, your time, my time - finally cohering in his cerebrum as an inspirational thought: "Hey - I'll double "win" in a term! I can almost see that doubled in my mind - I think that phrasing really touches something..."nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:12:45 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8113,from=rss#post8113https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8113,from=rss#post8113quote:greendocnowciv wrote: and for Candidate Trump, a great strategy, because Hillary had counted on peeling women away from Candidate Trump by painting him as a woman abuser, and selling Hillary as a wonderful "woman candidate." He "used" them very effectively.nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Sat, 16 Jun 2018 16:25:30 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8112,from=rss#post8112https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8112,from=rss#post8112"Tell me, why doesn't Fox News have the Clinton accusers on every single night of the week?" Kind of a silly Q, my friend, as we are one and half years into the first term now. The "Clinton Women" were happy to help Candidate Trump, and they did help him. They wanted to help anybody against the woman who helped her cheating husband either lie about them and smear them, or go further and hurt them in some way physically so far as in one case, rape. As for TV coverage... After that debate, they did get coverage on the regular media a bit. More on Fox, and on Conservo AM radio, and Conservo and libbo but non mainstream Dem YouTube and Conservo Web magazine sites. As I say - good for them, and for Candidate Trump, a great strategy, because Hillary had counted on peeling women away from Candidate Trump by painting him as a woman abuser, and selling Hillary as a wonderful "woman candidate." Instead, woman leaning more conservo than libbo got a reminder of what a sleeze Bill was and how complicit Hillary was in treating them like tramps and whores to keep them in the background and intimidated. nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:59:41 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8080,from=rss#post8080https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8080,from=rss#post8080Tell me, why doesn't Fox News have the Clinton accusers on every single night of the week? If there was a new, salacious detail then they'd get coverage. Trump inviting them to a presidential debate is a salacious detail, so it got coverage. Their stories haven't changed, so the stories didn't get any particularly in depth additional coverage. Viewers get bored, and they want new information. Dredging up old accusations with no new details doesn't make for very good TV. nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Fri, 15 Jun 2018 21:55:09 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8068,from=rss#post8068https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8068,from=rss#post8068"...that was then, this is now, move on already whydoncha..." Yes, that was a movement related to the Clinton scandals. One of their scandal recovery techniques. In pushing that idea, some Clinton supporters even created a website they titled "MoveOn.org" - which still exists. https://front.moveon.org/about/ Now it just does Dem activism, but was all about what you posted - "that (insert most current Clinton Scandal here) issue is old news, never mind that, move along to this more current issue..." The women were not dealt with properly at the time by the Clintons or most media. Those standards and the "me too" standards evolving during the campaign were definitley not observed. Crass? Crude? Untraditional? Tough. Politics aint softball, baby - it's hardball. Hillary had an anchor around her soul named "Slick Willy." Whenever she tried to pull her "woman card" we could say "you helped him abuse them." And she was being dishonest way back then, and dishonest about it again during the campaign. Most Dems - not all, though - and most media agreed with you, lucid, that this was out of place. But not most voters in 30 of the 50 States! After that debate, those women were now available for interviews and had takers. And as much as the Clintons and media wanted them out, they were "In" again. Her damn husband had "rescrewed her" with these old "scandals!" From what the White House staff said about her temper, I imagine he managed to stay away from being alone with her for a while after that debate. And even though they were mostly on her side, those reporters had an urge to do their jobs. A few reporters hit her on her hypocrisy, just a little, related to "Bills Women." It was a golden, perfect strategy. It worked very well.nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Fri, 15 Jun 2018 20:57:27 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8064,from=rss#post8064https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8064,from=rss#post8064quote:That shocked and preocupied one and all. The ladies only got covered tentatively. Because their story was no longer salacious. It had a time and place in history, but that was a long time ago. What was salacious was the fact that Trump would stoop so low as to invite them to a presidential debate. Maybe people should still care about Clinton's accusers, but they really don't, not anymore. All people cared about was Trump pulling a shameless stunt to try and throw Hillary off her game. Trump's supporters loved it because they want a "fighter" and Trump haters loved to hate it because they hate him anyway. nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Fri, 15 Jun 2018 20:07:53 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8049,from=rss#post8049https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p8049,from=rss#post8049Lucid, "The media is always going to cover a salacious story..." Not quite the same way. Recall when Candidate Trump surprised the opponent in that particular debate, and rolled out the Clinton Women for a surprise pre-debate announcement, as he sat with them behind a table. That shocked and preocupied one and all. The ladies only got covered tentatively. Only "me too" saved them from a repeat of the attacks they got from several pro-Clinton spokesfolks on the many cable and network talkfest shows back in those days when the Clintons and their flunkies were viciously attacking them, and media folks laughed at the crude jokes. "Shes what you get when you drag a twenty behind your car when you drive through a trailer park." "Haw Haw." Lordy! So long ago in subjective time, but mere decades in actuality.nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:14:12 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7995,from=rss#post7995https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7995,from=rss#post7995Spare me the soapbox. None of you are actually worried about Stormy's wellbeing, you're just "using" her to attack the media and you know it. She knew exactly what she was doing, and the media is doing exactly what it does. She consciously hired Avenatti, and Avenatti plays the media like a fiddle. If she had a problem with the way things were going, she would have gotten new representation ages ago, but either way that is between her and her lawyer. The media is always going to cover a salacious story, whether it is about a presidential blow job or a president's affair with a porn star. Not because they hate Trump, but because people want to hear about it. I know that, you know that and Stormy knew that when she decided to come forward. If someone "convinced" her to come forward with lies then that person is detestable, but "the media" isn't that person.nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:33:39 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7985,from=rss#post7985https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7985,from=rss#post7985lucid, So, as long as some man at some time has convinced some woman to do something - they are "used?" And as long as some other women have been "used" in some way by that broad, lose definition - why, it's kosher for the media to use Story. Oh, Stormy! Yesterday my eyes were filled with poooorn...sorry. Back to the politics - So, other guys and gals being schucks makes this kosher? "This" being: Story was talked into risking a big loss from a lawsuit by the President. She was talked into by some media folks purely so as to use her as a weapon to in some way damage President Trump. Now, to you, that is not them using this woman against her own interest, for their own purposes? For a liberal, you certainly are taking a classic, stereotypical "male chauvinist" stance.nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:05:18 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7981,from=rss#post7981https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7981,from=rss#post7981"Wah wah wah, the media is USING this woman who decided of her own free will to go public. They're USING her!!! I know Trump used women too, but I can justify it because I like him!"nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:49:37 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7973,from=rss#post7973https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7973,from=rss#post7973Obama is the reason that Donald is in power, and Stormy may blow hot and cold, but she is not what will push Don from power.;=D You want more Donald? This is how you get more Donald! Liberal's! Choose the form of your Destroyer! It is done !!! nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:08:44 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7964,from=rss#post7964https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7964,from=rss#post7964Lucid, "The consequences, good or bad, are hers to own." Stormy - yes, the consequences, good or bad, are indeed hers to own. And how does she actually compare to the "Clinton Women?" They all claim either a bit more, or much, much more than Stormy does. Stormy says she had a consensual affair. Clintons' women - all of them claim either deception and negligence, or abuse, or rape. No comparison here at all. Candidate Trump brought victims who were happy to confront the man they accuse of wronging all of them - Ex Pres "Slick Willy" Clinton. Candidate Trump didnt "use" them in the bad sense. Rather they helped him as he helped them. They cooperated with him in a classic "win-win." Each wanted the world to see Ex President Clinton and his wife, who ridiculed or smeared one and all, as bad. nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:33:52 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7949,from=rss#post7949https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7949,from=rss#post7949Stormy is in breach of contract. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:31:40 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7947,from=rss#post7947https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7947,from=rss#post7947quote:Spikosauropod wrote: quote:Remember that wonderful debate where Trump personally invited the accusers? But those people are all better off. They had merely been forgotten and now are in the media and getting all sorts of attention. I had never heard of Stormy before this and now she's a household name. quote:Spikosauropod wrote: Stormy Daniels had a nondisclosure agreement. She is going to lose EVERYTHING. Ahaha, no she won't. Trump doesn't exactly have a stellar track record of successfully suing the people he says he's going to sue. Stormy is going to be fine. Besides, she chose to go public with all of this when she hired Avenatti. The consequences, good or bad, are hers to own.nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:26:41 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7945,from=rss#post7945https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7945,from=rss#post7945quote:Remember that wonderful debate where Trump personally invited the accusers? But those people are all better off. They had merely been forgotten and now are in the media and getting all sorts of attention. Stormy Daniels had a nondisclosure agreement. She is going to lose EVERYTHING. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:21:47 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7941,from=rss#post7941https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7941,from=rss#post7941The media might have used Stormy Daniels, but Trump himself used all the Clinton accusers during the campaign. Remember that wonderful debate where Trump personally invited the accusers? I remember that.nondisclosed_email@example.com (luciddream00)Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:59:58 +0000 Re: The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7927,from=rss#post7927https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7927,from=rss#post7927And she has the Trump legal team to face. An NDA. Great money to make, and all ya gotta do is shut up. Easy peasy! And if, in her Strippers mindset, dealing with reality such that the money you can make by being a Stripper is worth rejecting a "straight" lifestyle and rejecting the end of life surrounded by a grown family full of love for you - hey, then whatever else has come her way, if her assumed dalliance with pre-Pres Trump is true is any example, is the life she and many others choose. She gambled that this was better money than the NDA money from pre-Pres Trump that was paid then and is probably long up her nose. Or in some con mans' bank account. So now it may have seemed like to this genius that since she has run through the NDA money, she might as well work for more from, maybe, both sides! She forgot the art of the deal. Heck, our genius may not even have heard of it. Let me offer you a brief lesson, darlin' - Crush your opponent if they take your money and turn on you. If you can - destroy them. A rep is "gold" in many areas of life, supposedly true in business. This is his rep. I think she will be regretting picking this fight before its all over. nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:19:43 +0000 The opposition media used Stormy Daniels...https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7918,from=rss#post7918https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p7918,from=rss#post7918...like they use women and people of color, and it is nearing the time for them to throw her away: https://thepoliticalinsider.com/stormy-daniels-legal-fund-loses-600k/nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:18:19 +0000