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Re: Stanford prof: ‘Dungeons & Dragons’ is racist


Extie, if your assessment of the Real World Race problems was true, Obama wouldn't have boomed from Illinois Dem Political stardom to the Presidency as fast and easily as he did.

Racism means, usually, being mean and insulting to someone based on race. It doesn't mean pointing out something that you think relates to someones' race if nothing mean or insulting is intended.

Factually, various group racial differences fit large numbers of this or that ethnic group/population-group/race. Accepting this doesn't make someone racist, and that applies to both cultural and race stereotypes that often widely apply to the race or culture that they're supposed to.

You accept that in the fiction-worlds of D&D and Star Trek, but appear not to in reality, especially in the claim that raising various races in other racial families would show zero inherent racial issues.

The infamous Kaepernick is an example of how glaringly wrong that can turn out to be. Kaep was lost to his birth parents due to their inherent dysfunction, and adopted by a middle-class White, Christian couple.

He was raised in love, and loved his adopted parents in return, as he followed a traditional path for athletic US kids. He went from young school athletic star, to college athletic star, to professional sports.

But on that path, somewhere en-route to the NFL, he fell into the Angry Black Nationalist Stereotype that we see him fitting so well into today. His looks can "pass" in either direction - something within him led him to where he is today.

Do all Blacks fit that mold? Obviously not - we're discussing ever-plastic humanity here, not Chimps. But for all races, we do in fact have various well-tabulated metrics on this or that quality, clustering in that ol' hump in the middle of the ol' Bell Curve. These can be called "accurate stereotypes."

Kaepernick shows us two things, and one is very encouraging. Simply that giving Black kids good parenting may be the answer for some academically challenged Black kids, as we continue to face an ongoing, persistent gap between Black and White academic success.

Yes, young Kaep went successfully from Grade School all the way through College.

But it also shows us that Black culture today includes snares that can trap many Blacks up in a sad, dysfunctional "Black grievance" mindset, that appeals to a very large number of Blacks.



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Yes, of course people show interest in racial issues in real life. Indeed, some people are so interested in such issues they have made it their life’s work to understand this kind of prejudice and its root causes.

You seem to be missing the real point. Dungeons and Dragons IS Racist because its fictional universe is racist. This is because, unlike real life which has only one race that we know of, in D+D there are many Races and they conform to Type much more so than real life people do. In Real Life you shouldn’t go around making sweeping statements like ‘All Blacks are bad’ but in D+D there really are Races that are Bad (Orcs, trolls,) and Races that are Good (Elves, Hobbits). Star Trek is much the same. Here, too, we have many Races and a much greater tendency to conform to Type. If I were to say ‘if you’ve met one Jew you’ve met them all’ that would be prejudiced and wrong, whereas somebody saying ‘if you’ve met one Ferengi, you’ve met them all’ in the Star Trek universe, they’re just stating a fact.

Do people in Star Trek or D+D always go around pointing out that all Orcs are bad or that Klingons and Kardashians are the Violent Races, while Vulcans are all peaceful logicians? No, but so what? Those stereotypes do actually apply, because this is what such Races are like. That’s not prejudice, it’s a fact.

So in real life people are Racist (some more than others) but this is just flawed thinking because there’s only one Race and people don’t conform to stereotypes anywhere near as much as they need to for Racism to be a valid way of thinking. Whereas, in D+D and Star Trek, We find truly stereotypical Races, making such universes Racist universes. They remain Racist universes whether people point this out, or not.



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Close - yet so far off.

One - fiction that entertains and does not revel in hate and despising anyone is not racist, especially not if it engages in zero "racist" anything, except for a very-few set-piece "set 'em up and knock 'em down" episodes, such as one or two I described in an earlier post.

Real life offers the concept of "races" for those of us - the vast majority of the word - who recognize many races among those of us in the Human Race. Races are now also called "Population Groups." This is done by Psychologists, biologists, statisticians, and others who deal with specific races often or as a specialty, or compare some racial groups regularly, as all of them earnestly want to avoid "struggle sessions" whenever any heart-felt "antiracist" happens to stumble apon their work.

"Population Groups" works as a simile for Race, and is used in every way exactly the same - except for that nastily famous derogatory way to use it.

The old, dreamy idea of just wishing it were so, can appear to work great as long as everyone plays along - but its blatant fantasy.

Racial differences are the broad equivalent of the term sub-species. We see the differences in many, many ways, from various physical and behavioral metrics - and. of course they go all the way down to DNA.

To recognize race and racial differences and discuss them factually is not "racist," if zero negativity or derision is brought into it.

In that case, one is engaging with racial reality, not "racism" To chose to use "racism" to discuss race realistically is like choosing "arson" to discuss lighting a cigarette or fireplace. It's not just wrong, it's the misuse of a word.

Surely, you don't want to slur or blur the badness associated with racism! Of course not. So, lets leave it where it has been for so long - attached to using race as an insult, for derision.

A term has already come into use to describe discussing race in terms of factual data, and not old slurs and commonly used insult-words.

"Race Realism" is a now-accepted term for discussing race in a factual way. One would say that I have been discussing race as a "Race Realist." Not, as you have insultingly insisted, as a racist, while also slurring D&D and Star Trek that way.

Or not meaning to slur them or me - and thus diminishing the "oomph" of that harsh term "racism."

I understand how you can be going along with this, Extie, and mean nothing mean or bad in writing such an insult. I try to imagine being a smart person on the Center-Left, as the Left in the UK and the US are marching forward further and further out into the Brave Proggy Left in the last decade or so.

It's impacting more and more writing out there - you must have been reading stuff where "Racism" has been smeared around, all over now, for some time.

Good luck with making mental headway over there on the center-left, as somewhere in the publication side of the Left, someone has decided to dissolve and morph various words -- like race, in this case - into meaning things that they simply do not mean.



 
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Again, there really is only one race and no matter what your skin colour or your religion, you are a member of that race.

But, in D+D there are many different races. Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Trolls, these are all different species. Ok, so why not just say they are different species and leave it at that? Because unlike every species on Earth (except one) these species have sophisticated language, technological capability, and culture. So, just as we call the collective if the one species with all those attributes the human race, we would be equally justified in speaking of the Dwarven race, the elvish race and so on. In fact, I’m pretty sure that in Tolkien’s works these species are referred to as races.

So we actually have many different races in the D+D universe, whereas in real life we actually do not. Furthermore, in D+D we have races that are Good, and we have races that are Bad. Or, another way to put this is that there are superior races (like the elves who are very wise and live in very beautiful places they built using their immense knowledge of art) and then there are the Inferior races (like orcs, who are all ugly and prefer smashing up stuff and killing to diplomacy).

Do we have superior and inferior races in real life? No, because, not only do we have only one race, but also, as Jared Diamond and others have shown, the way some nations advanced more quickly than others had nothing to do with the intrinsic superiority or inferiority of some people over others.

Really this all adds up to the conclusion that in real life Racism is a false belief system whereas D+D is a universe in which it is not a false belief system. Therefore, it is a racist universe. D+D is racist.
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May Eru Illuvatar forfend!

Tolkien told the nazis to !@#$ off when they sought to publish they Hobbit and inquired if he was Jewish? Basically, in a very proferssorial manner that is!

The communists and their liberal chums are as Jew hating as any 1933 Strumabteilung or Islamist of today. They just are trying to rous their people against White culture-because they want total control.

Witness last week's broadcast of NBC's Nurses-

https://ew.com/tv/nbc-pulls-nurses-episode-anti-semitic-scene/

Even the writers were so technically inaccurate on Jewish law, that the portrayals by the lib-scum were simply not fact based. They projected the hatred on these Fiddler on the Roof actors, that they themselves possess.

So, the bad professor at Stanford, where the autocratic power seems protected even though this is a public institution, has so far been unchallenged. This will surely change as real Americans practice continuous lawfare against what can only be rightly seen as a totalitarian establishment.

I prefer the Gary Gygax (D&D) version of Tolkien because its many minds, many adventures, and it's not so damned depressing. Tolkien must have suffered from depression, I am guessing, idf you read his short story, Leaf By Niggle, or some of his attachments at the back of Return of the King.

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