I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about it https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t13683 Runboard| I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about it en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:38:50 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:38:50 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p61012,from=rss#post61012https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p61012,from=rss#post61012I did try for it last night, but it seems solidly geared for academia. I tried to enroll, but backed down, when I realized I was simply hogging bandwidth that academics could properly use. In other words I would be rejected because I would just asked some questions :-/ I had thought you hand interacted with "3" Spike. Sorry for the misunderstanding. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=VsqMpNrmTkioFJyEllK8s0v5E5gdyQhOuZCXNuMR8i1UQjFWVTVUVEpGNkg3U1FNRDVVRFg3U0w4Vi4unondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:46:59 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p61004,from=rss#post61004https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p61004,from=rss#post61004I actually have never thought of taking an active role in this. Do you have some notion of whom I would contact? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Sat, 22 Aug 2020 10:29:37 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60993,from=rss#post60993https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60993,from=rss#post60993I have looked at the GPT-3 enrollment and it looks strictly a pursuit for academic researchers. Is it possible you can access this thing so I can ask, or better yet, ask for me, Spike?nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Sat, 22 Aug 2020 00:03:02 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60320,from=rss#post60320https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60320,from=rss#post60320Be careful what you wish for. Unlike the ChiLab flu, We will never "get over" the Singularity. If we discover that we don't like our new AI overlords...to bad. It's AI overlords from here on out. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:08:23 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60318,from=rss#post60318https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60318,from=rss#post60318Anime's hyperspatial Treble Clef is a solvable problem? Sounds good! As for machine morality, lets get this stuff powered up so at least there will be a threat to consider. As of right now it is merely the jargon of writers to talk on, about. nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Thu, 06 Aug 2020 20:51:18 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60252,from=rss#post60252https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60252,from=rss#post60252quote:Many, if not all of our own "natural, bio-AI" equipped kids start developing as greedy tyrants if not tamed and trained by family and friends. There is a major difference between AI and biological intelligence. Biological intelligence is the product of billions of years of fighting other biological entities for food, territory, mates and general survival. People are not tyrants by accident. They are tyrants because they have to be. The taming is done to ensure they tyrannize within the boundaries tolerated by their respective civilizations. AI has none of that innate tendency. It has no desire to do anything but what it is directed to do. However, there is a potential conflict: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Basic-AI-Drives-Omohundro/a6582abc47397d96888108ea308c0168d94a230d nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:00:36 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60243,from=rss#post60243https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60243,from=rss#post60243We'll type in the morality. We definitely can't count on what we think of as moral developing in the growing AI mind if we don't put it in there, first. Many, if not all of our own "natural, bio-AI" equipped kids start developing as greedy tyrants if not tamed and trained by family and friends. How handy to type in a modern list of the ol' Ten Commandments, and know that they really "sunk in."nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Wed, 05 Aug 2020 17:30:22 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60233,from=rss#post60233https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60233,from=rss#post60233I realized today, as I thought about it, that my job could probably be done by GPT-3. Unfortunately, all the homework I assign could also be done by GPT-3. I don't expect jobs like mine to survive past the 2025. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:00:16 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60232,from=rss#post60232https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60232,from=rss#post60232quote:There is no eliminating the chance of creating a moral a.i. (limbic system) there is only testing to see it is safe to be allowed a certain intelligence and personality. They will have emotions but not a mental illness. I suspect that morality in AI will be accomplished in the same way they do everything else. They will have vast databases of moral decisions and rules and simply run a statistical analysis on every decision. They will probably be much better at it than people because they will not be prone to extremes. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:57:36 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60221,from=rss#post60221https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60221,from=rss#post60221It says it is not a reasoning machine because it lacks long term memory. But long term memory is only an extension of working memory which it has. It stretches what you say but not extrapolation because it needs to retain all memory. Imagine this extrapolation happens visually. It could solve puzzles like this. Next would come a thalamus and a full-body avatar. When you have all the parts the only way to test if it is moral is to test it. That is why the next step is to build virtual environments to see if it acts in such a way as to be ethical. We can see its neural processes. Trace them back to there source and be sure. There is no eliminating the chance of creating a moral a.i. (limbic system) there is only testing to see it is safe to be allowed a certain intelligence and personality. They will have emotions but not a mental illness. Morality is self-control anyway so it is simply getting the coordination together. Just because I do what I am told doesn't mean I lack free will but it may mean I lack emotions.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Animecat)Wed, 05 Aug 2020 05:51:38 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60207,from=rss#post60207https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60207,from=rss#post60207Spud, I will pray that you are correct. My hope is that all of this stuff ushers in an era of peace and plenty. On the other hand, I have never heard a good philosophical argument that people are capable of "sitting still" like that. They seem prone to invent trouble. Why did tribes living in paradise take up head hunting? I guess we shall see. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:47:38 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60204,from=rss#post60204https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60204,from=rss#post60204Papa is correct that it exciting and I want it to be productive for humans as well! Meaning, I want this and other systems to make life materially better, we humans can handle the spiritual, psychological stuff. Which turns us to Spike's most recent observation. No, my spider sense doesn't invocate and sense of impending cosmic annihilation. I don't think its all a big simulation, although in totality it could, outside our view, be a process of statistical mechanics running. I suspect that we were created (no proof here) that we are supposed to be involved in the universe improving itself, as in life being something that eventually, error-corrects itself :-/ Speculation is that the universe was compelled to design itself in this way, with life on earth involved in predation to survive and advance. We are what creates the error-corrective process that will need to be performed over billions of years. There's a fair chance that we will be revived (re-created) from death (infrared photons) to witness progress and render opinions on The Project to our descendants. This, state of existence was known by the ancients as heaven. nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 18:31:55 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60170,from=rss#post60170https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60170,from=rss#post60170This is getting exciting guys!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Papa Guinea Pig)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 14:05:20 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60165,from=rss#post60165https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60165,from=rss#post60165It took 13.8 billion years to get to this point, and we just happen to be here to witness it. Moreover, we are profoundly caught up in the process. Do you ever get the feeling that the "Singularity" is not so much a destination as an expiration date? Maybe it is something that always happens about now when a "universe process" is run. Maybe that is when it is harvested, plowed up and replanted. We are not here to benefit from it. We are the squeakers on the brakes. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:47:23 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60161,from=rss#post60161https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60161,from=rss#post60161Not to be an optimist, but the AI hard takeoff can't be much worse than Wuhan and Riots. I say give it a shot and see if we can use it to design our way out of our troubles, technologically? nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:29:07 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60152,from=rss#post60152https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60152,from=rss#post60152quote:if this is exponential well have a hard takeoff That seems to be the curve we are following. I can't imagine why a process that appears exponential to date would suddenly level out. I can't imagine why the advent of general AI would be the exception to a 13.8 billion year-old pattern. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:30:53 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60149,from=rss#post60149https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60149,from=rss#post60149if this is exponential well have a hard takeoff for escape velocity....nondisclosed_email@example.com (uncle23)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:51:03 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60144,from=rss#post60144https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60144,from=rss#post60144Here is the thing: these people are clever. They are going to find some way to get GPT-3 to help them develop GPT-4. Barring that, they will definitely get GPT-4 to help them develop GPT-5. The roller-coaster ride begins yesterday. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Tue, 04 Aug 2020 00:14:17 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60142,from=rss#post60142https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60142,from=rss#post60142quote:Developers have built an * all-purpose Excel function * a recipe generator * a layout generator (translates natural language to JSX) * a search engine * GPT-3 to generate code for a machine learning model, just by describing the dataset and required output. This is the start of no-code AI. * GPT-3 can write Python code and explain its functions * GPT-3 can create a man. I said, "Make a man in your own image," and it made one. I don't see how this thing can get much better and not cross the line. GPT-4 has to be it, and I can't see it taking more than a year or two to produce. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 23:39:03 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60138,from=rss#post60138https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60138,from=rss#post60138https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2020/08/openai-text-and-program-generator-gpt3.htmlnondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 23:29:27 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60110,from=rss#post60110https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60110,from=rss#post60110I've met lots of GPT-people. Lucid is more of a man-Karen. He'll be back. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:42:58 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60107,from=rss#post60107https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60107,from=rss#post60107The human equivalent to this thing is Lucid. But maybe Lucid was just a test of this machine.nondisclosed_email@example.com (RedQ)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:38:53 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60106,from=rss#post60106https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60106,from=rss#post60106Here is another thought. We can send two ships: one filled with mining robots and another filled with refining equipment. The refinement ship can refine the metals while it is returning to earth and place the finished product into a reentry vehicle. only the reentry vehicle will land. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:38:23 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60104,from=rss#post60104https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60104,from=rss#post60104We need to send missions to Psyche that are mostly for building up infrastructure, but pay for themselves plus 10% by bringing back gold and other metals. As you can see, the ship that brings the materials back can be quite simple. It will not be much more than a rocket equipped with a reentry vehicle. The outbound ship can be filled with robotic mining equipment. It can unload the robots, which will proceed to mine and refine. The empty vessel can return with precious metals while the robots continue to mine and refine. There is no need to bring back so much booty that we crater the market. That would be foolish and counter-productive. Bring back only enough to finance the program as needed. We keep doing that until space is conquered and we are a space-faring species. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:32:08 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60094,from=rss#post60094https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60094,from=rss#post60094Yes, gents, gpld, platinium, elements we don't think of that would find their way into human intelligent level computers in the not too distant future. GPT should be built with memory, and I am not so hot about "emotions," or morals, as of now. Give us the cash. nondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:24:17 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60086,from=rss#post60086https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60086,from=rss#post60086We got the supply and demand issue with the gold. We bring lots of gold to earth, we play with, and possibly crater, the gold price. Look at diamonds. Periodically someone regurgitates a prior article about how DeBeers and others stockpile, and only "eek-out" diamonds to keep the price up. As formerly precious and otherwise rare and useful metals became common and readily available, the prices of the industrially useful ones might drop more stably, as the demand in industry would rise and fall as new factories open to take advantage of new possibilities. I'd vote to exploit either the Moon or the Bonanza Asteroid - or both. I mainly want the US up there, faster and more. We have so much to do, and building with stuff up there simply seems clearly a better plan than paying huge costs per gram-weight to lift building materials up there. So as Spike put it, yes, pay that too-high price now, to put stuff up there...stuff that will lead quickly to mining materials that can create the needed building materials. nondisclosed_email@example.com (greendocnowciv)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:04:44 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60078,from=rss#post60078https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60078,from=rss#post60078quote:$10,000 quadrillion! Dang, that thing is so valuable they couldn't remember the name of the number that describes it. No one ever says "quintillion". Psyche-16 is worth $10 quintillion. My spell-checker won't even accept that word! We are definitely going to Psyche-16! Big mining ships! Elon Musk could pay for all his adventure just by building starships that go to Psyche-16, grab a few tons of gold, and come back again: Space mining, here we come! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:29:54 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60075,from=rss#post60075https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60075,from=rss#post60075I mean, it seems apparent to you and I. Especially if there is successful environmental resistance to ocean mining? The biggest materials grab would be for quantum computers, electric cars, and robots on earth, maybe for solar cells? The moon is the easiest target, but there is also Psyche-16 the metallic asteroid. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2020/07/07/nasa-teases-psyche-a-robot-to-explore-an-asteroid-worth-more-than-our-global-economy/#1db7e3bb1c4bnondisclosed_email@example.com (spud100)Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:51:49 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60050,from=rss#post60050https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60050,from=rss#post60050Getting back to my original point, we only need one new ingredient to conquer space: cheap autonomous labor that can work in hard vacuum. Space has power, raw materials, water, everything. However, we don't have a "grunt" that can stand in hard vacuum and radiation all day and swing a pickax. Robots can do that, but they aren't smart enough yet. That is where GPT-N comes in, If it can just figure out a way to churn out a machine that can do anything a man can do, but without the benefit of air or a protective atmosphere, we will be in business. An army of these (not necessarily anthropomorphic) could work on the moon or near an asteroid and build all the infrastructure we need. They could set up manufacturing, build wheel stations, and start churning out Musk-mobiles to land on earth and take people to space at 1000 a pop. If we had that technology, it wouldn't even matter if a lot of the stuff had to be manufactured on earth for years before the robot forces in space could work alone. Robots working on earth could bring the price of production down so far that building an army of Musk-mobiles to take equipment to space would be dirt cheap. The whole key to conquering space is cheap robotic labor. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:48:56 +0000 Re: I asked GPT-3 to write a response to the philosophical essays written about ithttps://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60047,from=rss#post60047https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/p60047,from=rss#post60047Just now, while researching this, I found this article: This doesn't surprise me. If an idea is plausible, you can be certain someone is working on it. Our delivery system will be ready when we need it. Here is more: https://www.spaceworks.aero/flight/red-data2/ https://www.colorado.edu/event/ippw2018/sites/default/files/attached-files/12_-_reentry_technology_ippw_jdec_r2.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Concept-of-operations-for-RED-Data2-mission_fig1_269249582nondisclosed_email@example.com (Spikosauropod)Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:53:56 +0000