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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
All I can say is that Mueller had better have turned up evidence of a mass murder committed by Trump's own hands or there are going to be a lot of dues to pay. If this is really about Trump's lawyer paying off a floozy and not declaring a "campaign donation", there will be no quarter for Mueller, his team, or any Democrat who pursued this.
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4/10/2018, 8:51 pm
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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
Spike,
Yes! And Rosenstein, I hope, is the first to fall.
If Muelly keeps this up and starts zinging after others close to the Pres, then I would flip on my stance on holding off and leaving Muelly in place.
But if he leaves it as is, I want pro-Trump Republican action to build. And the Pres should keep up the Tweets.
Maybe Jeff Sessions will slap a T patch on his other shoulder and leave his office and find out what the heck the lads at Justice are up to, if the Pres keeps zinging him.
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4/10/2018, 10:33 pm
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There is a possibility that something is about to happen that will turn all this on its head. Maybe Sessions is allowing Mueller to establish a precedent so that he won't look bad when he conducts a dawn raid on about two dozen Democrat senators and representatives on the same day. I can't believe these people are this weak and inept. There is something going on that we are not seeing.
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4/10/2018, 10:43 pm
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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
The law will be disobeyed-what will democrats do?
We will take the streets.
Do they feel Stormy Daniels will achieve this? The Russians who purchased 146 mil of Uranium One from Hillary?
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4/11/2018, 1:58 am
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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
The Left is undermining basic planks of our Constitutional system, including Lady Justice's equality before the law. If one tenth of the effort was put to investigating Hillary that has been employed against Trump, they would have a dozen indictments, and Hillary would be in a striped pant suit.
I don't know, but I hope American is disgusted by the Left's attempts to re-assert it's control over them.
Dersh writes on the base Constitutional violations committed by the hired assassin Mueller:
Justice Department violated Michael Cohen's constitutional rights just by seizing his records, Alan Dershowitz tells DailyMail.com – hours before Harvard law professor has dinner with Trump
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Red,
Thanks for that article with the Dersh interview.
And I'm glad Nunes put pressure on Rosenstein - it looks like Nunes and Gowdy are happy with the documentation they finally, after eight long months of delay, they are getting.
I think the reluctance, the long delay to try to not give this up, means that we will see a clue to exposing the corruption of two men.
One - this corrupto Justice Dept guy, Rosenstein.
The other- the former FBI Director who took the "Islamic Terror" out of the FBI Terror manual, and hid the Uranium One investigation from Congress by not alerting them. And who Rosenstein appointed to "go fishing" to "get Pres Trump"...
Those two corruptoids will be exposed. This documentation will help, and as we go, we will find enough to get both of them.
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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
Rosenstein surprises me. He was Law Review at Harvard and a vice president of the Federalist Society.
I keep hoping for a strong move for truth and justice from him. Either the time hasn't been right, or he's sold out to the corrupt establishment.
He had an hour sit-down with Trump, so something may be about to happen.
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4/13/2018, 7:50 am
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Re: The Law is coming Mr Trump. NYT
Red,
Five fast reasons for calling him bad.
First - He was part of a cover-up of an Obama-era scandal involving big money, uranium, the Russians, Ex Pres Obama, and then Sec Hillary.
He was one of the leaders of the FBI criminal investigation of Uranium One. They only prosecuted one guy and did it low key, and never told the top classified Congressional leadership about it when Pres Obama gave signs he would approve it, or when he did approve it, or after.
That stayed out of attention until Uranium One was uncovered as part of the whole digging into the Trump-Russian Collusion thing.
Nobody to my knowledge has asked Rosenstein why he took part in not alerting Congress and why it was never brought to their attention.
A link supporting his involvement in this is given in Point four, as it also supports that point.
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Second - he writes a two page memo of reasons to fire FBI Director Comey, then assigns a special prosecutor to investigate Pres Trump when he fires Comey.
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Third - the law he used to assign the role to Mueller requires a crime be named that will be assigned, to prevent the job from becoming a wide ranging fishing expedition.
Instead, he wrote the assignment naming no crime, and which said to just investigate all Trump contacts forever and look for anything connected to anything or anybody ever connected to anything Russian or that itself had ever been connected to a Russian.
This can only die externally. Mueller has no integral "stop switch" on his job. Thats the opposite of the way that law is supposed to work.
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Fourth - he should have recused himself from anything to do with Comey, as he worked closely with Comey and other now central figures in the newly discovered Uranium One scadal.
"Some of the lead investigators in the case included Rod J. Rosenstein, who is now deputy attorney general of the United States and Andrew G. McCabe, who is now the deputy director of the FBI. During the bulk of the investigation, Robert Mueller was the FBI director; in September 2013, James Comey became the FBI director."
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/atty-toensing-uranium-scandal-obama-was-briefed-russian-bribery-kickback
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Fifth - he should never have assigned Mueller, as he is a close freind of Comey as well and Comey could easily come under investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2017/live-updates/trump-white-house/trump-comey-and-russia-how-key-washington-players-are-reacting/brothers-in-arms-the-long-friendship-between-mueller-and-comey/?utm_term=.80da043cf41e
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I'll be playing Devil's Advocate here, Doc.
1) Uranium One could have served the interests of the U.S. and have served Hillary's interests. They are not mutually exclusive. A less charitable view is that Rosenstein may have had doubts, but went along to get along and stepped out of the path of a freight train. An ignoble act, but understandable on some level.
2) He wrote the memo. His best choice for a special prosecutor was the former head of the FBI, a man he had the highest respect for.
3) The referral was an intelligence matter -- determine who had colluded with the Russians in the election. A special prosecutor may refer/pursue other crimes discovered by the investigation. So, the referral is not the problem, but each expansion of the investigation. Some have pointed out that Sessions could step in if the probe is expanded, and hasn't. Either Mueller has been persuasive as a matter of law, or Rosenberg and Sessions are cowards. Or Rosenberg is corrupt -- a never Trumper.
4) Rosenstein could be forgiven if he didn't expect Uranium One to become an issue.
5) I think that's addressed in 1) above. At this level, he is a close professional acquaintance with any one he could chose for the job.
How's that for the Devil, Doc?
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