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Administrator Elections


It is now time to begin considering something that I have expressed an interest in many times: the possibility of electing a new forum Administrator. The administrative controls include a way for a new Administrator to be appointed and an old Administrator to resign.

This forum has been in existence for four months, and I feel that it is time to at least consider this possibility. Also, I think it would be healthy for the forum if a new person were the Administrator. This would remove the stigma of the forum being my personal pet. Passing the following measure will not mean that an election needs to be held immediately. It will just pave the way for such an election at some future date.

I have in mind that Doc would have the right temperament and availability to become the forum’s new Administrator, but that will be left to a vote.

I have written a new rule that should facilitate the process of changing administration. We can discuss it and debate it. As Administrator and also as a regular member, I cannot propose it as a motion. However, I can propose the text of the motion and any moderator can state that it is "so moved":

Motion: that the following be added to Rules for Moderators as Rule 23:

23. Administrator Elections: Changing forum Administration is essentially a change to the forum and is legislated in the same manner. At any time, a moderator may make an unambiguous motion that a member (including themselves) be made into the forum Administrator. They must state who the new Administrator will be, and that person must state their willingness to serve. The election will be held in the same manner as any other vote to make changes to the forum and requires a 3/4 majority. If the nominee is elected, they will immediately become the forum’s new Administrator and the old Administrator must immediately grant them administrative control. The old Administrator may retain administrative control until such time as the new Administrator feels comfortable in the role and no longer requires their assistance. However, they will not retain any administrative powers. If a moderator becomes the new forum Administrator, they will immediately lose the powers of a moderator and immediately assume the powers of an Administrator. An Administrator may not also be a moderator. However, an Administrator may have one additional identity as a non moderator member of the forum. They have the choice of being Administrator with their original identity and creating a new regular member identity or of creating a new identity to become the forum Administrator. The new forum Administrator may select one member that states their willingness to serve to be their Parliamentarian, which includes their own non administrative identity, any previous Administrator or any previous Parliamentarian. The Parliamentarian will have the duty of reminding members of the rules and guiding them in their application. Parliamentarians cannot also be moderators and have no actual power. In order for a moderator to be the Parliamentarian, they must surrender their moderating powers.


Last edited by Spikosauropod, 4/4/2018, 2:18 pm


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4/4/2018, 12:59 pm Link to this post PM Spikosauropod
 
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Re: Administrator Elections


Two important things - the first more important than this election idea.

I accidentally opened another persons post when intending to edit my own.

I then closed out, reopened to check, closed and finished my personal editing and came here to ask you to fix it.

I tried to open one of yours to check. You too are vulnerable. So too, presumably, am I.

Can you fix this, by coding it such that only the person who created a post can edit it, oh creator of this fine place?

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Second - you may not resign! If the Ancient Romans had the power to keep Augustus alive, they probably would have stayed in power to this day.

Give it more thought, or, like Augustus, establish a fake electoral system [sign in to see URL], no, this is America, and not just America, but both the sadly partly corrupt but also partly whatever dream we hold of it.

I want this to be a great site, and its really good now. So consider sticking it out.
4/4/2018, 4:08 pm Link to this post PM greendocnowciv Blog
 
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quote:

Can you fix this, by coding it such that only the person who created a post can edit it, oh creator of this fine place?


As a moderator, you can edit anyone's post. Only moderators can do that. My Spikosauropod identity is not immune because it is a regular member identity. Be more careful! You probably cannot edit a post by TheInvisibleHand. Try it and see.

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Second - you may not resign!


I will never resign unless a new Administrator is elected. In a sense, the power to elect a new Administrator has always existed. Like I say in the rule I outlined, it is basically just another modification to the forum. I was hoping to make the fact of this reality manifest and official. I am merely introducing the idea. In the years to come, you or other members may see it differently.

My duties as Administrator have been remarkably light. I think that is because of the delegation of authority and the rules themselves. When someone says, "Why don't you do this or change that?" I merely hide behind the rules: "Don't ask me, ask a moderator or propose legislation!" This is something I learned as a teacher. When students want me to do something unusual, like give them an incomplete, I merely point out that the school's administration does not allow me to give an incomplete unless the student has completed 80% of the class. Since no student who has completed 80% of a class ever asks for an incomplete, I never have to issue one.

On KurzweilAI, Amara held too fast to the controls. She had the typical fear that delegation would result in chaos. That is a common mistake of people in power. Remarkably, when authority is delegated, those to whom it is delegated are often afraid to exercise it, keeping everything relatively stable.

Last edited by Spikosauropod, 4/12/2018, 4:55 pm


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4/4/2018, 4:44 pm Link to this post PM Spikosauropod
 


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