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This is known as the Libturd Effect.
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what spud100?
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@spike

I believe that if the software running on my computer had a self-model and thus a theory of mind then I believe it would conscious because it understands my mind and others. It requires a mind to understand a mind and an artificial mind would no less be the same. As the brain uses feedback loops to self-organize the software mind would do the same on my computer. Theory of mind = consciousness.

note:

Consciousness could be said to be the ordered propagation of signals in channels. The brain and computer follow this criterion. But (the order matters)

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Something I just remembered.

Self-referential systems are what mathematicians have used as their main theory of consciousness since the 1970’s.

The brain is self-referential.

Software can be self-referential such as to have a theory of mind.
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Ramona, in the righthand column of the front page, is gone. When did that happen? One new article. No substantive changes.

Until I see evidence to the contrary, I will assume that the whole point of this drawn out exercise was simply to get rid of us.

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quote:

Artificial intelligence investigators should declare an immediate and complete moratorium on all discussion of creating “minds”. They should draw a sharp distinction between mental states and intelligence and make it clear that what they are attempting to create is intelligence. They may eventually be able to make machines that are more intelligent than people. These machines may exhibit all sorts of behavior that was once thought to be the province of human beings. However, they should always remember that these things are machines. They are mechanical devices—devices comparable to automobiles and clocks—that utilize algorithms that sometimes mimic aspects of human behavior. Machines are machines and people are people. Until someone demonstrates a workable and reliable consciometer, there will never be a logical scientific reason to imagine otherwise.




I think it is possible my computer can have mental states and be conscious and have a mind. Because of signals processing in computers and the brain. And self-referential loops.

So there is no reason for an immediate and complete moratorium on all discussion of creating “minds”.

I already have an easy about creating minds.

right here

]Reality Maps and A.I.

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KurzweilAI is barely worth looking at any more. They drove us out a month ago, nothing has changed, and barely anything is happening. It's like watching an abandoned shed decay.

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Kinda relaxing huh> Like going fishing without really wanting to catch anything. Kurz may not like people, that simple. Or he wanted everyone to be a clone. Getting into the things that really drive the human mind in society may be too rough for him?

So they isolate, if they cannot be a guru?

He could also want to use the old site for money reasons and we'd get in the way. Promoting some AI to other money people $
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Maybe, by "new ways of communicating", they meant an invisible forum that is by invitation only. We have been gentrified!

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Ah! The Vanguard Proletariat's of Lenin's structure. If this is true, and I have no way of knowing, then RK is just Progressive, Libfa. It wouldn't astound me, but if true, it would disappoint. I wouldn't trust his judgement on much, had this been demonstrated to me.
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