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Registered: 11-2017
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On 4/24/2020, one of our moderators, RedQ, called another moderator a “deadly virus”. He also urged other forum members to no longer communicate with this member. I submit the following as evidence:

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A moderator declaring that members should not communicate with another member is tantamount to blackballing. Since moderators have real power, regular members may interpret this as an actual prohibition. Since Lucid is a member of the forum and part of its moderating and legislative staff, I have to interpret this as an attack on the forum. RFMo 14 gives me the power to act in the instance of an attack on the forum:

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14. Emergency Administrative Action: If something occurs on the forum that raises serious safety, legal or hosting site rule concerns, or if a member is clearly attempting to do damage to the forum, and no moderator can or has responded with necessary haste and effectiveness, the forum Administration may act in that one instance. If this should occur, Administration must make a post in the Foundation & Bureaucracy section explaining in detail what action was taken and why.
https://bescapevelocity.runboard.com/t4



The action I have taken is to remove RedQ from the list of moderators. My assumption is that if he is not physically listed as a moderator and has no physical power, members will not fear retribution for failing to comply with his implied dictates.

Note that RedQ is still officially a moderator and still has a say in regular matters. He can still propose, second and vote on legislation. What I have done is merely a technical fix. I have done the minimum that appears necessary to protect the forum.

I am now asking moderators to permit restoring RedQ’s physical moderating privileges. Note that I do not impose penalties and cannot set arbitrary timelines for restoring privileges that were removed as an emergency response. Once I act, my actions become part of the Status Quo and undoing any collateral damage falls entirely to the moderators. Therefore, if no moderator steps forward to give permission, matters must remain as they are.

However, if even one moderator, other than RedQ, NuScorpii or giulio, steps forward and merely says “I give TheInvisibleHand permission to restore RedQ's physical moderating privileges,” I can and will restore them. For the record, I request that this moderator justify their declaration, but I cannot require such justification.

Under no circumstances can I accept RedQ's justification to restore his physical moderating privileges. It was his lack of judgment that resulted in the action being taken, so it must be assumed that his judgment cannot be relied upon for undoing it.

If NuScorpii or giulio are willing to provide a detailed justification for restoring RedQ's moderating privileges, I can accept their permission also. However, they are not active on the forum, so they are not officially moderators. Their justification will need to be in detail, including the presentation of evidence; and they will have to answer any questions posed to them by other moderators and Administration.

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See here, and tremble moderators Big Cat Fight:

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And while your at it, delete the post Red made right after this one. ↓


Spike edited his post directly above right after I posted the following. He may delete that added comment after reading this critique.

I never deleted another member's post. Some I suggest be moved, but that's it.

Here's why Spike indicted me:
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My complaint was that Lucid (and Spike) were making purely partisan political comments on a MindX thread. I merely sought to protect the integrity of the site. It was purely Escape Velocity politics by these two.

Then Spike pretended that his hair was on fire. "A moderator declaring that members should not communicate with another member is tantamount to blackballing."

Not as bad as censoring perfectly acceptable posts, Spike.[/edit]

Oh stop the Kabuki Theatre you two. Who cares? Spike used 'jackass' as a weapon tailored for me.

Lucid tired to use formality to take out what he sees as political rival. I'm not his political rival, and it didn't work.

The whole jackass thing used by Spike against me was payback because he's a passive aggressive, or something, that holds a grudge. (This came out of my suggestion that we adopted to use a different structure for the forum). It's stupid.

Spike finally came up with a formula -- he'd act unilaterally! He'd require a moderator to actually take a position. His guess was right. No one did.

If Spud or Doc or Extropia wants to correct this abuse of power, just post "No" here.

Spike's Genius Plan
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Just get any one of our active moderators to post these exact words:

I give TheInvisibleHand permission to restore RedQ's physical moderating privileges.

They can just copy and paste. Seriously, no questions asked.
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Our partisapants don't like rules.

Just say No.
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quote:

RedQ wrote:

Our partisapants don't like rules.

Just say No.



Are you asking them or telling them?

If our members actually do not like rules, they can get rid of all of them with a 3/4 vote:

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19. Forum Modification: Anything about the forum can be changed (where feasible) if 3/4 of the moderators agree to exact changes. Forum Administration will not undertake heroic measures to make expensive or technically difficult changes. Administration may make minor edits to the forum to increase consistency or clarity after posting their intent in the Foundation & Bureaucracy section and waiting 24 hours for members and moderators to make objections. If any moderators object, the issue must be handled in the official manner.


Basically, if you can get 2 other moderators to say "dump all the rules", and no one opposes you, the rules will be gone. Of course, I would have to resign as administrator and make you administrator by default. I DO like rules. Great fences make for great neighbors.

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