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Hitler suspended Berlin football team that refused to ‘ hile hitler’.


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Is this the same as what the NFL is doing?

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Naw, because the Germans worshiped one man, and the Football Kneelers were simply stating that they hate America, like Rev Wright, Obama's preacher of 20 years, who said in a sermon: "God damn America!" You remember? Plus, the morons in sports are millionaires, and this was one poor guy in a nation in which all other parties, save the national socialists.

It was their way of going after cracker, for all police shootings, (involving blacks alone), and to show that they hated the fans, some of who didn't vote for Hilly.
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Is standing up, somewhat still and somewhat at attention, and showing respect to our Flag the same thing as swearing allegiance to a specific national leader?

That is too simple to make it to an IQ test.

Maybe a warm up example to loosen the kids up before the test starts.

"Kids? You, Bobby."

"One is a symbol of a whole nation and/or it's Government, and one is a person, Sir."

"Very good, Bobby. Now class, the test questions won't be that easy. Remember to make comparisons and contrasts as you have been taught - and the questions may seem as easy as Bobbys' question was."
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Hitler suspended Berlin football team that refused to ‘ hile hitler’.


For this to be remotely similar, the team would have to have been suspended for not saying, "Hail to Trump!" The absurdity of that notion lays bare the absurdity of this comparison.

However, this is interesting:



It's right there in music and motion. Nothing to imagine or infer.
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the Football Kneelers were simply stating that they hate America



No they weren't. They were protesting police brutality. They were using the kneeling as a form of peaceful protest, in order to bring attention to an issue that they felt strongly about. They knew they had a captive audience during the anthem, and they knew that their actions would get attention. They were ultimately successful at getting attention, but the Right has apparently fairly successfully muddied the water and convinced people like you that the kneelers "hate america".

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No they weren't. They were protesting police brutality.


I think Lay's potato chips have too much salt. Do I take a knee during the national anthem?

No, because Lay's potato chips have nothing to do with the flag or the national anthem. The fact that some police somewhere may or may not be mean to some black people is not justification for disrespecting all of us.

It is about hating America.
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I think Lay's potato chips have too much salt. Do I take a knee during the national anthem?


They were being opportunistic. They knew they had a captive audience, and they knew they would get attention. It was not about hating America, it was about amplifying their voice. At worst, you could say that the people taking a knee were making a statement about their dissatisfaction with the current state of America, but it is intellectually dishonest to pretend like they "hate" America.

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"It's about hating America."

Yes, it is. Here is a basic, A-B-C kind of explanation of how they get there.

The current push of the ideas behind this "kneeling thing" started back in Ferguson.

From that criminal case came the group "Black Lives Matter," and the kneeling, sitting, deep knee bends, etc., that some NFL jocks were doing was supposed to be based on the Black Lives Matter core message.

Black Lives Matter had taken a long established PC "hate America" viewpoint and connected it to a lie about a criminal case.

For Dems, supporting this was part of a general pattern they have followed for a while whenever some issue arose that roused lots of Black anger.

The Dems try to latch onto such an event, and establish a narrative to harness the anger Blacks feel.

The reason - to help get them as furious as possible, for as long as possible. That way, next election, hopefully a large number will be able to be reminded of that, and be moved to vote by that anger.

In this case, the emotional cause was a lie about the justified homicide of a Black criminal who was in the process of resuming an attack on an Officer he had been attacking very shortly before.

Part of the Black Lives Matter narrative uses the lie told by the dead criminals' accomplice, as well as the supportive dishonest witness testimony agreeing with that lie.

All the dishonest testimony fell apart during Grand Jury testimony. Forensics proved the lie was a lie, and that all added up to the Cop being found innocent.

Our then-Black President told his Black Attorney General to check on this "outrage" - to send an official Justice Department investigative team to Ferguson to investigate "this outrage."

It was discussed as an outrage in most of the US news media was supporting the "disproven lie." The "hands up dont shoot" motto came from that lie. Democrats in Congress ceremoniously stood together for mass pictures with their hands up.

PC-taught and led High School teens held their hands up at High School football games. Demonstrators would write "hands" on the palm of their right hand, and "up" on the palm of their left hand.

Then silently hold up their hands palms forward displaying "hands up" in commemoration of a lie that PC adults were telling them. The kids had every reason to believe that this was a true horrible murder committed by a kind of storm-trooper representative of a hateful, murderous, White-racist America.

Part of the Black Lives Matter lie was that the reason for the ongoing murder by Cops is that America is a corrupt, White-racist fraud of fake goodness. That America was truly, really, actually organised to help Whites and kill Blacks.

As result of hearing and believing this, one would certainly say, as the Rev Wright said, "Not God Bless America - God D*mn America."

Certainly per this view, as Spike says, someone believing it who was a good person could certainly, well...hate America.

Now a closer look at the central lie of Black Lives Matter lies - that US Cops in general are out to murder Blacks. Happily for truth and justice, we keep lots of stats.

Statistically, this lie falls apart.

For one, White and Black Cops are more likely to shoot Whites than Blacks, when it is somebody who is disputing with the Cops in some way, armed or not.

White and Black Cops will let Blacks go further in disputing with them.

Black Cops are more likely to shoot a Black suspect than a White Cop is.

That information supports the idea that Cops are holding off to avoid the blowback they now know can result from killing a Black.

Much less or no blowback for killing a White.

And Black Cops fear that blowback less, due to less suspicion on them for being racist against Blacks.

Overall, a teeny tiny percentage of Blacks are shot who are not fighting with Cops.

That teeny tiny percentage almost always gets investigated with the Cop likely to be heavily investigated.

The vast majority of Cop contacts with Blacks do not result in murder of the Black.

The vast majority of Black murders - almost all - are not by Cops. Almost all the Blacks who are killed, are killed by Black criminals.

That list of facts is lost in the haze of commercials and shouting and buzzes and whistles that distract discussion today.

Now the NFL has decided to try to prevent any public display of kneeling related to the Anthem being played at the games. Thats hardly sure to work - the players union spat out a combative reply, so it will be big news to see how this goes.

Thus we are back to the "NFL Race Story."

This whole NFL Anthem kneeling circus was of course was started by Kaepernick. This now-former NFL QB bought into, and apparently still buys into the Black Lives Matter philosophy.

That background I described about the ideas of Black Lives Matter, the "murderous cops" stuff, appears to be his cause.

Various public discussions have referenced that and it sometimes gets some credit as being true by public commentators - sadly.

Very happily, the majority of NFL fans don't see it. Nor do a majority of Americans who have been polled.

Hopefully this stays true, and it continues to get less of the general support it would have if Black Lives Matter had become more of a big, successful movement.

What a fortunate thing that Pres Trump brought a strong opposition to PC along with his winning campaign!

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Luccid-They were defending their criminals and hating the USA. They were also ignoring any other deaths by police done on non-Blacks. This was pure BLM.
"God damn America" Reverend Wright, Obama's minister of 20 years.

Doc: There was once a famous European seer, a person who amazed crowds and held private session for royalty and the new, industrialized rich. One of this seer's sessions was with Andrew Carnegie in 1912.

The seer predicted, "A man will rise in Europe! He will galvanize his people in one direction, start a war, wipe out the jews, and embroil the world in the greatest battle in history! Mechanize warfare, radio, new aeroplanes will lead the battle, and it will engulf all nations of note!

Carnegie: "Those !@#$ French are capable of anything, Madge!"
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Spud,

Thats fascinating about the Euro Seer. We had Edgar Cayce, and I never looked into the claims about him.

Such things are often interesting to me.

Maybe that stuff appeals to me due to some kind of connection in my mind to my long past youthful pursuit of such stuff in books and magazines.

Ancient astronauts! Develop your latent psychic abilities!

Happily, I didnt buy into the "x-ray specs."
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