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You've been saying that a civil war is coming forever,


I have actually never said that. Possibly I said it in the last day or two, though I do not think so. It only very recently seemed plausible to me.

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we know how to deal with domestic terrorists in America.


By calling it terrorism, you imply the solution. That is the brutal suppression that may escalate into a civil war.
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It wasn’t only Democrats there were 9 Republicans who joined the vote to impeach

The trial may be held after next Wednesday, but it will block Trump from holding office in all likelihood
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You've been saying that a civil war is coming forever,


I have actually never said that. Possibly I said it in the last day or two, though I do not think so. It only very recently seemed plausible to me.


Oh?


6/29/2018
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I am starting to see how it could happen.

If the Republicans keep hold of the House and Senate, DJT gets reelected in 2020, and the Supreme Court begins making a whole string of conservative rulings, progressives will begin to feel like they have nothing to lose.

First, organizations like BLM will start burning things. Then, someone like Maxine Waters will say, "Yeah, go ahead and burn and destroy. What have you got to lose?" Progressive politicians will have more and more experiences where they are pushed off podiums like Bernie Sanders was in Seattle.

Eventually, progressive candidates will be afraid of their own constituency and realize that if they don't advocate for more burning and destruction, angry mobs will be at their doorstep.

These groups will get further and further out of control until they start attacking anyone they perceive as being opposed to them. Eventually someone will have to shoot back.

POW...civil war!



1/19/2020
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I actually wonder what would happen if Trump were defeated in November. The question then becomes, by whom?

If it is Bernie Sanders, I will just laugh at the world. "See God, you gave them choice and look what they do with it."

If it is not Bernie Sanders, there really could be a civil war. Conservatives will sell popcorn while Leftists slap each other with open palms until their puffy white cheeks turn pink.

When Trump wins, there will be a lot of this...

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...and a LOT of schadenfreude!



6/2/2020
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Wake me when the civil war starts.


Lucid...Wake up!




6/27/2020
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That said, I am beginning to suspect that this actually is leading into a civil war. These agitators have decided that this moment in time is their last best hope to bring down the US and replace it with a communist Utopia. They have a plan and they are not going to stop.




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we know how to deal with domestic terrorists in America.


By calling it terrorism, you imply the solution. That is the brutal suppression that may escalate into a civil war.



I didn't imply anything. It is a fact that domestic terrorism happens in America, and there are procedures to deal with it.

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Lucid, those were completely different issues. I may as well have been talking about Hugo de Garis's artilect war. Also, I only said that I could see how it could happen. Since the conditions never presented themselves, it is a moot point.

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it will block Trump from holding office in all likelihood


Only if they convict. Even if they do, it will not silence Donald Trump. It will only enrage his base.

I actually doubt Donald Trump will run again. I suspect that he will do something completely different like create a conservative network. The damage will be done and Donald Trump will be off to other pursuits.
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Luccid, you must be thinking of me, regarding a civil war? Spike nevered uttered it as far as I know? For such an action to occur, there would have to be a big economic crisis, me thinks.

Causes?

1) Nuke war in the middle east due to Biden's love affair with the Ayatollahs and the party's hatred of Israel.

2)Nuke War tween China +Pakistan versus India.

3)North Korea using it's H-Bombs.

4)China re-takes Taiwan in the Pacific and hits Guam, or Hawaii, Alaska. Might be teamed with Putin, to forestall a US response.

All of this, bad for business so to speak, and so are radiation clouds from such events.

5) a hyperinflation, followed by a great recession, due to SJW programs due to Dem rulings. Least disastrous!!!

You may be correct and I am just doing hysterics, or you may be wrong and the survival of civilization simply exists as a feature of your attitude? Maybe the world is not as stable as you think? You'd have to ask yourself, what physical features or human practices mitigate in favor of national and global stability??
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I can, however, see how this could lead to a civil war. It will not start with two sides forming up armies. It will result from escalation.

Democrats will try Trump for "claiming that the election was stolen".

Donald Trump's legal team will present evidence that it actually was stolen.

Trump supporters will riot.

Democrats will brutally suppress them.

Trump supporters will come back with guns and bombs.

Democrats will deploy the military.

The military will be uncomfortable shooting citizens. The citizens will seize on their inertial to confiscate military armaments. Civilians with military background will train up troops.

Civil war.
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Lucid, those were completely different issues.



Thank you for supporting my point. Why should I take your opinion seriously about this one? You seem to claim “civil war” at the drop of a hat, about many different issues, and the civil war never materializes.

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Lots of discussion of this recently, touching on how a Senate Impeachment Conviction Vote could happen, given RINO Repub Senators like Senator Mitt "Mittens" Romney, "Mirky" Murkowski of the "Great White North" Repub State of Alaska, and a strong RINO strain running threw the Repub Senate Crew in general.

Regardless of the prevalence of that bad, sad old taint...

Most of 'em are constitutionally really, strongly inclined to follow the lead of their voters, even as they preen and act like great leaders who ignore the winds of opinion.

And these days? These days, the Trumpy Repub voter just voted heavily for Don, and seems to be ready to explode. So I really doubt that he'll loose the Senate Conviction Vote.

But - worst case, lets look at him loosing, and ask if he'll be hurt in any way.

He can never run for President again,

He gets no pension,

He gets no Secret Service protection,

He gets no annual million dollar travel allowance. From the NPR radio discussion I've heard of this, and a Conservo talk radio discussion, they both agreed on those. But that's my only source, so anyone, please correct if wrong.

If that's it, tho...

In his early 70's, and rich, and never having taken a buck of his - I think - 400K annual salary, I don't think he'll loose any sleep over those benefits.

So go for it, Dems and RINO Repubs. This will have a certain three, and a maybe four great side bennies for Don:

1) It decides running again for him. Relax, already, Mr. Type A! And now he'd be able to. There's a chance, then, that he'll talk to Melania and Jared and the other insiders, and they'll be able to steer him to a more longevity-enhancing lifestyle.

They can get him a Primo geriatric-health trainer, and he'll have a great ongoing project in pushing the Trump legacy in the Repub Party and with various interviews. However the health stuff goes, I'm sure he'll continue with the Trump Rallies.

I just hope that happens while he fine-tunes it, oriented around his ongoing biometric health indicators, rather than following his Type A instincts to always push like an actual campaigner.

2) If impeached, and suddenly declared unable to run again - then right at that moment, the next gen of Repubs have their minds tick-over to "this might be my time, then!"

They can then thrash it out. He'll still be campaigning. We'll still get the non-stop input, on many days of the week.

Only now, it'll be on a Gab, Minds, or other Smartphone App, rather than the Twitter App.

That's a big thing, giving that next Repub candidate the longest lead-in he or she can get.

3) Just like with the Kav hearings, and the first Impeachment, the Dems acting so nasty with Don will show the centrists out there how bad they are, and push them more where they mostly lean anyway, to the right. And it'll strengthen the already pro-Don Repub TV viewer out there. So, thanks for that, Dems!

And as Spike noted, we might get a fourth beeny:

The same thing as with the "Ukraine Impeachment Effort" may happen. Just as they exposed Biden corruption, another impeachment effort may expose the Dem Election Corruption.

The showboating Spike described might happen, making "result number 3" much more impactful by laying out all the stuff lots of folks have ignored, 'cause they never saw it. It may mean showing the mass of normies lots of stuff for the first time, due to the massive "Big Steal" deception-effort that was made by all big networks, almost all Newspapers, and the Big Socials.

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Let's stop all the nonsense. Biden will never be president, nor Kamal.

Comment next week.
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