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Re: Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
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1/9/2020, 11:55 am
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Re: Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
This may be why so much Dem-Allied Media has taken Chief Lying Snakes' word on her new fight with Bernie.
Obama's clique of friends and insiders have said that if necessary, Obama would publicly oppose him to stop Bernie - if he gets that far.
Chief Lying Snake may do him in. Note - she directly implied he lied, by asking him if he lied about her, right after the debate.
What kind of question was that? Twice in a row, as he gropes for an acceptable response.
Explanation - she is goading him into openly, angrily accusing her of anything: Lying, being misleading, anything.
Anything that isn't polite can be added to the list of accusations against him that CNN and other Journo's have hurled at him over the last few days.
By not explicitly saying to Bernie: "You lied," she takes away from him the excuse "hey - she called me a liar. I simply responded in kind."
Its a dance of new rules. Bernie backed down to those Black Lives Matter protesters early in the 2016 Dem Primary for the same reason. Their is no legit argument with Black Lives Matters in public - in Left-World - while they step right up to your face and scream at you.
Behind the scenes, OK. So Hillary leaked herself negotiating with them hard, but politely. It was an easy PR hit on "Soft Bernie."
He ain't soft - he's rightfully careful in his lefty world. Its a bad position he's in, as an Old White Man, in the heartland of "Me Too."
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1/17/2020, 4:26 pm
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Note - she directly implied he lied, by asking him if he lied about her, right after the debate.
Jeff Zucker: OK...then right after the debate, you go up to him and say, "You accused me of lying in public!" Make sure you sound sincere. We will pretend we don't know what you said at the time, but keep your microphone on. The next day, it will be one of those "reveals".
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1/17/2020, 4:33 pm
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That's one of the ideas being suggested in some libbo conversation, Spike - a CNN-Warren plot to jam-up Bernie.
We have the lesson of the Medici family in Renaissance Italy - a family of treachery masters!
And Warren is a conniving Econ Professor who has danced around truth for years, in and out of the Ed system.
Now - our own Catherine Medici nears the final contest for US primacy...
Happily, she meets a combo of Constantine, Julius Caesar and Dale Carnegie...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People
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1/17/2020, 5:59 pm
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Re: Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
Interesting the way Bernie and Trump are/were treated similarly by their respective parties during the primaries. I hope Bernie has as much success as Trump had in overturning the status quo this time around.
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Re: Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding of America and the Left to equate Trump with Bernie.
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1/17/2020, 6:15 pm
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I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding of America and the Left to equate Trump with Bernie.
Only in the sense that both of them were disliked by the "establishment" in their own parties during their primaries. The question is whether Sanders has broad enough appeal to overcome the establishment in the way Trump did in 2016. I doubt it, but I also doubted Trump would do the same in 2016.
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Re: Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
Trump is a flamboyant volatile pragmatic centrist outsider and Bernie is a stoic rigid ideological outlying insider. The only thing they have in common is that their own party is afraid of them. The Republicans were afraid of Trump because the didn't understand him. The Democrats are afraid of Bernie because they understand him too well.
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1/17/2020, 6:40 pm
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Yes, that more detailed comparison brings out that insider quality of the long-term Senator and the outsider quality of Trump.
But Lucids point is solid in that both were indead fought by their own Parties elites.
In the Dem case, Hillaroid had bought the DNC and the corruption therein got exposed during the Primary, at the very end - amazinig how well the Dem Allied media just let that wash aside and now it rarely is mentioned - without Fox and the Conservative sites, it would probably vanish from record.
And that comparison of the two men, the extrovert and the stoic - yes.
Look at how Chief Lying Snake repeated her two questions, weirdly framed as question-statements. All Bernie could do was struggle for a response, blurting out "lets talk later" and "You called me a liar."
All of us can imagine the difference if she tried that with Trump.
It would have blown her back during the debate, and she never would have tried anything again face to face afterwards.
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