Re: ELEMENT 115 - Did Bob Lazar Really Reverse-engineer Alien Technology? >With the track record of the results of advanced culture interacting with lower cultures (terrible) it wouldn't be surprising if the powers that be and the aliens concluded that 'ignorance is bliss'.
I can see how the "ignorance is bliss" scenario has its benefits but enlightenment is also bliss. So if aliens and governments are trying to avoid a culture shock, I would think the aliens would have the answers. After all it's they who are supposed to be smarter than us. How is the integration normally done? We can't be the first galactic or intergalactic civilization to have this problem.
If I had to guess, I would say gradients. Two civilizations of unequal development would gradually be introduced to each other. But how would you do that?
To answer my own question, I would suggest a radio telescope interaction first. I would also suggest reverse-engineering of technology. If the aliens have gifted us these 9 space craft, as Bob Lazar would testify, they obviously want us to study them, otherwise they would have confiscated them by now. So maybe the aliens have us on a program of education. But along with this I would think the knowledge must be used to improve the human civilization. A well-fed, happy civilization is more likely to accept and integrate with an advanced civilization than a poverty-stricken, war-torn civilization.
So if they are here, both they and we have a responsibility to introduce our two civilizations to each other carefully and thoughtfully. Again, I would think this would include advance messages from radio telescopes or by other means along with a covert application of reverse-engineered alien technology to raise the standard of living on the planet.
Re: ELEMENT 115 - Did Bob Lazar Really Reverse-engineer Alien Technology? MARCH ON AREA 51:
Mainstream Media Blackout Going on 29 Days
by James Jaeger
It's been 29 days since the march on Area 51 was announced on the Internet and still the Mainstream TV Media -- CNN, MSNBC, FOX NEWS, ABC, CBS and NBC have not mentioned a peep about the march even though over 1.5 million people have indicated they are going to go.
What does this omitted data tell us about who the MSM works for?
It tells us the the MSM is probably scared about throwing fuel on a legitimate fire, a fire of angry citizens that pay thousands of dollars in taxes to the Federal, State and Local governments yet have little or no idea what large portions of their money are being spent on. When asked about the Black Budget, the governments that tax WE THE PEOPLE simply retort: "Shut up citizens, it's for your own security."
What the governments never mention is this:
TO THE DEGREE WE HAVE NO TRANSPARENCY WE HAVE NO SECURITY.
Forget that the government may be reverse engineering alien technology -- technology that could remedy all the UN's concerns about poverty, energy, war, climate change and sustainable development -- citizens have no right to know.
As the march builds from a start of 50,000 then 400,000 then 1,6 million and now over 2.5 million, it's becoming apparent that this movement is not only huge, it's symbolic.
Whether or not aliens exist, WE THE PEOPLE want to know: what does the military-industrial complex spend $50 billion a year on? And don't say national security, because that's the oldest ruse in the book, a ruse every government in history tells its people.
The fact that governments have killed over 262 million of their own citizens over the past century should encourage every American to ask -- what is my tax money being spent on?
Physicist, Bob Lazar, says alien technology. Tax money is being spent on being reverse engineering alien technology at Area 51 and/or elsewhere. Millions, probably hundreds of millions, of U.S. citizens desire to know if this is true. The fact that the MAINSTREAM MEDIA is covering up this desire makes them complicit in the cover up, irresponsible at the very least. All this is another reason broadcast licenses should be revoked and Sherman anti-trust laws should be applied to the 6 media conglomerates..
Watch MAINSTREAM for details on the Mainstream Media and who controls it.
Re: ELEMENT 115 - Did Bob Lazar Really Reverse-engineer Alien Technology? There was a kinda goofy story about Jackie Gleason being shown the embalmed or frozen remains of aliens at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida, after a celebrity golf tournament with Richard Nixon.
And perhaps that's where they stopped sharing information with the presidents. Since they're only in office for 8 years, max. (assuming it's true)
Re: ELEMENT 115 - Did Bob Lazar Really Reverse-engineer Alien Technology? Gleason's ex-wife talked about that. She said Gleason and Nixon were friends, and he struck up a conversation with Nixon about UFOs at their golf tournament. Apparently, Nixon didn't like talking about it to people, and would seem overly uninterested in the subject. (overcompensating perhaps).. But, later that night, Nixon showed up at their house in Florida. She said he was by himself in a private car *(which seems far-fetched), and wanted to take Gleason somewhere.
They supposedly drove to Homestead Air Force base in Florida, where they shocked security staff, but they waved them through anyway. They drove to a building that was off by itself at the back of the base.. Apparently, they had some artifacts in the hanger area, and he took him to a chamber in the center of the building, where they had alien bodies stored. (He said they looked like mangled children, but old. (bald, with big ears (eyes maybe?)
She said that it messed him up for weeks afterward.. When she started talking about it publicly, planning to put it in an unpublished book, it pushed him over the edge, and he cut ties with her completely at that point.
There was a guy that sued the US government for disclosure, and tried to subpoena Gleason. (he never denied it, but he didn't talk about it publicly. Only to a few people that knew him)
Tis some evidence of it that people have compiled over the years... Kinda. There was a golf tournament in Florida where they both attended, as she said in 1973.
And, there was a book by a secret service agent, where he talked about how presidents (Nixon in particular) would ditch Secret Service, and go off and do their own thing... They'd freak out and have to figure out where they went, and then hush it up later because it showed how vulnerable the president actually was. It was also mentioned that specifically in 1973, Nixon tried to officially cut his security protection off of him, when they clamped down on him.
Then of course, Gleason's estate donated a shat ton of books, many on UFO-related topics, to a university library when he died. He was pretty obsessed it seems.
*The Clinton stuff, about how he'd supposedly take flights (with Epstein) without his security staff reminded me of that story. It seems far-fetched for a president to be off on his own while in office, but it happened apparently, even well into the Clinton era.
Re: ELEMENT 115 - Did Bob Lazar Really Reverse-engineer Alien Technology? JJ you believe in a galactic scale conspiracy. If you believe that you can believe anything. And you believe in a lot of nonsense.