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Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
You enter a meditive state, perhaps in a quiet space, you will contemplate your desire and then call upon an entity to assist you in some goal or to give thanks.
I believe that entity to be the "subconscious" in all cases - even if you're not conciously aware thats what you're calling upon.
It whirls away in the background nudging the universe with each action, often subtle, sometimes less so. Youve cast a spell in your mind.
So yes, I think some christians may get results from prayer - and those of other faiths. As long as you're not being unreasonable and asking for the impossible then you can summon the POWER. There are many paths to getting the mind in a hypnotic state. It is a question of becoming skilled at projecting an act of will into your subconscious.
What do you make of my theory prayerfolk?
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Re: Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
Just though about confession. I guess theres an argument that confessing psychologically effects you- another form of hypnosis. Might be a way to wash away your anxiety about your sins. Perhaps hypnosis you to put wrong things right.
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Re: Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
Muslim prayer is a form of war trance in which the supplicant prepares his mind for jihad.
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Re: Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
Yeah spike - war trance - i can imagine there being a solemn, meditive prayer and somekind of devout ritual dedicated to the suicide bomber. Magick is real. regular hynosis is probably no match to someone subjected to a lifetime of brainwashing.
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I actually do not understand the your thesis. Prayer, as Christians practice it, is nothing more nor less than talking to God: "Hey Lord, whassup!" You know.
It involves no peculiar mental state. When a person talks into a speaker phone, they are just talking to whomever is on the other end. God has speaker phones everywhere...including in everyone's head.
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Re: Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
The Pay off for the Muslim, Professor, is taking himself to a wondrous paradise, because he died killing infidels. There is an additional pay out, via being told by their mullahs that because of their dying, they also get to take family and friends to paradise with them-no extra charge!
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929240-200-martyr-myth-inside-the-minds-of-suicide-bombers/
The Christians as such haven't done this sort of thing, for a few decades now, and should be judged in a different light, for their avoidance of predatory violence, that the Left accuses them of.
HOWEVER
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/dawkins-cheered-for-hating-christianity-banned-for-hating-islam/20132#.W59bDs5KiUk
The Left has a dilemma with their hypocrisy, savvy?
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Re: Is Christian prayer a form of magick.......self-hypnosis?
quote: I actually do not understand the your thesis. Prayer, as Christians practice it, is nothing more nor less than talking to God: "Hey Lord, whassup!" You know.
Really? No Christian has ever made a request for something or asked the Lord to give them strength in a certain situations.
quote: It involves no peculiar mental state. When a person talks into a speaker phone, they are just talking to whomever is on the other end. God has speaker phones everywhere...including in everyone's head.
Ive heard Christians talk of entering a sacred space such as a church and it effected them emotionally/psychologically - its kind of subtle compared with sitting crosslegged, staring at a yantra and going "Ooooommmmmmmm". So even without a church surely the act of addressing the Master of the Universe is a spiritual/emotionally thing. You cant be suggesting its like making any other phone call.
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Spud im sure ive stated before that I believe Islam is a problem in the modern world in a way that Christianity is not. Sure theres batsh1t crazy, evil stuff in both religions' texts - theres always going to be extremists in whatever faith and they'll fock things up for everybody else. But its millions of extremist muslims, rather than Christians that are the biggest threat. Thats the reality. Its just a question of how you deal with that reality.
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quote: Really? No Christian has ever made a request for something
Asking is still talking. Haven't you ever asked for something over the phone?
quote: Ive heard Christians talk of entering a sacred space such as a church and it effected them emotionally/psychologically
I have heard people describe experiences like that upon entering Yankee Stadium.
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Okay, maybe im wrong and talking to the creator of the entire universe is just like talking to your pal Bob. There is no difference. Your conversations with God you rate as no more significant. This is a surprise to me.
And, yes, people who are devout about their sports team probably do feel a "special something" when entering their home ground. Do you not feel a "special something" when entering a Christian place of worship? Do you feel nothing?
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