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Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
This right wing fanatico used the words ‘cultural marxists’ and ‘muslims’ when he went on a day long killing spree in Norway targeting the ‘political elite’ mostly children of the more liberal or ‘progressive’ Labour Party. He murdered 77 people and seriously injured many more
He is currently serving the maximum 21 year sentence but he may never be released.
Norway offers 5 year extensions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
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Spikosauropod
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
Here is a site with a downloadable PDF of Breivik's book:
https://publicintelligence.net/anders-behring-breiviks-complete-manifesto-2083-a-european-declaration-of-independence/
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
Spiko
We agree this Brevik was a sick creature. Correct?
You are not advocating his actions by publishing his philosophy here.
Adolph Hitler published ‘Mein Kampf’ and was one of the greatest distortions of what it means to be human in history.
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
Amazon.com lists Ann Furedi's book The Moral Case for Abortion. Curiously, they do not list Breivik's book. There is apparently no consensus among progressives on the morality of mass murder.
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richiemobile
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
You are changing the subject....unless you consider abortion at any point the same as mass murder.
I suppose you believe impregnated rape victims must go full term.
mmmmm
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
My only observation is that, from the philosophical standpoint of progressivism, whether or not it is acceptable for one to be killed is more a matter of social valuation than of vitality. I.e. if one is not valued by society, one’s vitality is expendable.
The question becomes: did society value the people Breivik sought to kill? If those lives were not valued, his status as a “terrorist” is problematic…from the philosophical standpoint of progressivism.
Nevertheless, Breivik is not a conservative, and there really is no such thing as the "right" or the "far right". All extremism is in the spectrum of progressivism.
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
I believe I have explained this before. There really is no such thing as the "left" and the "right". That is a false dichotomy. There is only the center and the extremes. Extremism is progressivism. They are one and the same. The political spectrum is like a galaxy:
Since Breivik is an extremist, he is, by definition, a progressive.
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Re: Anders Behring Brevik. The most violent right wing mass murderer.
Spiko it appears
You live in a reality that exists only in your own mind.
The average person knows that in political discourse there is a Center a left and a right. The extreme left is Communism and the extreme right is Fascism. Both have proven in history in extreme versions to be toxic.
No one wants a reemergence of Adolph Hitler or Josef Stalin, but these are different times, and AI brings another major factor into all considerations.
Spiko, Do you consider yourself the ‘arbiter’ of all political discourse?
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quote: The average person knows that in political discourse there is a Center a left and a right. The extreme left is Communism and the extreme right is Fascism.
That is basically the "Ptolemaic" model of political science. It is no surprise that average people believe in it. I have spent a lot of years teaching algebra to average people.
Fascism has everything in common with communism and nothing in common with conservatism. I am not the arbiter of political discourse. I just am not trapped by outdated dogma.
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quote: Communism and the extreme right is Fascism.
Yes Spike is right. Fascism is just another variant of the Left. Mussolini was a communist that realized there was a flaw in the communist pitch if you wanted to rule the nation. He rejected the international workers model for a nationalist model. In some ways he was better than his peers, but he was still hanged by the people.
Richie, what happens to your ideology if you understand that Fascism, Progressivism and the Nazi's are mere adaptations of Marxism and on the Left?
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