Runboard.com
Слава Україні!

runboard.com       Sign up (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?)

 
richiemobile Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Moderator

Registered: 12-2017
Reply | Quote
‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


The New Yorker


https://www.newyorker.com/news-desk/swamp-chronicles/a-theory-of-trump-kompromat
7/22/2018, 1:11 pm Link to this post PM richiemobile Blog
 
Spikosauropod Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Parliamentarian

Registered: 06-2007
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


This author was doing so well:

quote:

“There is no way Trump is a Russian agent.” The proof, he told me, was right in front of us. If Trump were truly serving as a Russian intelligence asset, there would have been an obvious move for him to make during his joint press conference with Putin. He would have publicly lambasted the Russian leader, unleashing as theatrical a denunciation as possible.



Then, he abandoned reason in favor of punditry:

quote:

he thinks it is likely that the President believes the Russians have something on him. “He’s never said a bad word about Putin,” Darden said. “He’s exercised a degree of self-control with respect to Russia that he doesn’t with anything else.”



The explanation of Trump's behavior is simple. He is putting a LOT of pressure on Putin to change while making it as easy as possible for him to change: "Talk fawningly and carry a big stick."

Last edited by Spikosauropod, 7/22/2018, 1:26 pm
7/22/2018, 1:24 pm Link to this post PM Spikosauropod
 
luciddream00 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Moderatorₗ

Registered: 04-2018
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


quote:

Spikosauropod wrote:

 He is putting a LOT of pressure on Putin to change while making it as easy as possible for him to change: "Talk fawningly and carry a big stick."



Ah yes, the classic Trump strategy... that he only uses with Putin. He pisses off all of our allies, calls Kim rocket man... but he fawns over Putin? I don't know for a fact that Trump is compromised by Putin or if this is all about protecting his ego, but Trump acts weird about the whole thing.

Last edited by luciddream00, 7/22/2018, 1:40 pm


---
Account closed permanently. I won't stand for abuse of authority by forum administration to censor criticism of a conservative radio host that celebrated the death of AIDS patients on his show. Maybe some day we'll speak again elsewhere.
7/22/2018, 1:39 pm Link to this post PM luciddream00 Blog
 
Spikosauropod Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Parliamentarian

Registered: 06-2007
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


 
quote:

He pisses off all of our allies, calls Kim rocket man... but he fawns over Putin?


Trumps strtegy is tailored.

Our allies will not turn against us militarily, but they need their butts kicked so that they stand up financially.

Kim needed to be shown a contrast between the way his world is and the way it could be.

Putin is a hard old KGB agent that knows exactly what he is doing and exactly why he is doing it. He can't be persuaded...only corralled. Trump is corralling him by removing the pressure from his base while increasing real economic pressure.
7/22/2018, 2:03 pm Link to this post PM Spikosauropod
 
spud100 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Moderator

Registered: 12-2017
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


True, Spiko

I don't think I would've met with either Putin or Kim-call it a lack of imagination on my part. I'd have beefed up NATO. I would be implementing anti-Missile system, THAAD & AEGIS. In this way, if KIM or the Ayatollahs launched, they'd be shot down. No detonations, no use.

For Putin and China, they are implementing First Strike missiles, The Hypersonics, which he has given to Xi.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-fears-leak-hypersonic-missile-221959458.html

I would be working on laser antimissile systems to counter these.
7/22/2018, 4:32 pm Link to this post PM spud100 Blog
 
greendocnowciv Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info



Registered: 11-2017
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


"He is putting a LOT of pressure on Putin to change while making it as easy as possible for him to change: "Talk fawningly and carry a big stick."

Good quote from Spike. Pres Trump has called Putin a killer - and used a more general insult that he is a bad man.

Big contrast with Hillary as Ex Pres Obama's Sec State, and Ex Pres Obama in various acts and statements. There both made big efforts to be nice to Putin, hoping to work with him and achieve some potential, great resume brag sheet accomplishment.

The last, or one of the last favors Ex Pres Obama did for them was to tamp down an early sign of the "Scary Russians" idea.

This was developing at a point in the last election when Hillary was very confident of winning. Why rock the boat and add doubt to her expected victory? Best minimize the reports.

So when the now famous Russian internet attacks were discussed in the news with Ex Pres Obama, he minimized the news and reassured the press. He used a point President Trump has used - that both countries, both the US and Russia do that, not "the Russians do that."

Many countries do that. And, said both Ex Pres Obama and Pres Trump - the Russians have not had and are not having any important effect that anyone can show and lay out in a report. Not claim or yell - make a good case. Nobody seems to be able to.

The press accepted it from Ex Pres Obama. Oh, but of course from President Trump it is "catatstrophic, a true disaster."

Next, consider:

"Ah yes, the classic Trump strategy... that he only uses with Putin. He pisses off all of our allies, calls Kim rocket man... but he fawns over Putin? I don't know for a fact that Trump is compromised by Putin or if this is all about protecting his ego, but Trump acts weird about the whole thing."

Pres Trump has put much more pressure on Putin than Ex Pres Obama did. Thats the big stick that goes along with the great old advice to not talk war, but be tough. Hard for some to understand, but many of us do get it.

So why the worry? I think I know. Consider this example - the lefty media sent one guy so far off the rails he drove across several States to go hunting in DC for Republicans with a gun.

Lots of Dems are incredibly worried, and why not? So much worrying lefty media is trying hard to "wind you up."
7/22/2018, 6:06 pm Link to this post PM greendocnowciv Blog
 
Spikosauropod Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Parliamentarian

Registered: 06-2007
Reply | Quote
Re: ‘Kompramat’ and ‘Sistema’ in Russian affairs explained with Trump in mind.


Here is the key to understanding Trump's actions: assume that what he is doing is inhumanly insightful and ingenious and work backward from that assumption.
7/22/2018, 6:12 pm Link to this post PM Spikosauropod
 


Add a reply





You are not logged in (login)
Back To Top