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So there is a recorded conversation of Trump ‘arranging’ with Cohen to pay off Playmate


Oh well so he has more fun than you do.
Giuliani is trying to get out front of this fact long before
the next Presidential, so it will be a ‘given’ going forward.

Yeah he messes around but look at the economy


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-playboy-model-recording/index.html

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Lordy, there are tapes!

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Sure, we can find out. Is this on the level of a sitting President receiving a blowjob from a congressional paige like Bubba did in 96?? I dunno,.

Your fbi I no longer trust as Obama salted his attorney's in the FBI & Justice. I opposed Bubba's impeachment, (by Ken Star) for a Blow Job in office, even in the presidents' desk.

I an American Nationalist and not a prude, I understand human nature, or human passion, and respect it.

So let the Power Games, not the Hunger Games roll on. Let's see if the NYT proves something other than psychological warfare.

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Barry Goldwater walked into Nixon’s office with a group of conservative Senators and informed Nixon he was no longer gonna be President, resign now or else.

Nixon Resigned

It has happened before, it could happen again.
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Across the country, there are places where you are very unlikely to have conversations like this at any depth across the big "pro-Trump" - "anti-Trump" divide. They are mostly happening on either side, preaching mainly to the choir.

EV is one of the places where the anti-Trump and pro-Trump can occasionally discuss without insta-attacks breaking out.

This new issue looks like another of what has become a pattern I hope remains overtly expressed on the left.

We see some media firestorm - or attempted beginning firestorm - of calumny rise up. That is then eagerly turned into calls for impeachment.

Each time that happens, the pattern becomes more obvious to a few more on our side who hadn't yet seen that aspect of the left. Now, each time, they will be likely to notice - and then more likely to insta-dismiss it.

That old tale - so true! - of "the boy who cried wolf" has been brought up before, and it fits so well. The villagers are catching on!

The question of whether the public exploration of one of possibly several extramarital affairs is enough to destroy President Trump as a political actor in his role as President - that barely gets typed out before you know the answer is no.

As Rudy has been shown in this threaded discussion already to be doing, the PR response is a well worn path. Push it out there, make it a familiar factoid, and it then merges with the "overall public conversation."

The current regular firestorm of accusations actually makes that well worm mediation path much easier! The "overall public conversation" now only has to "normalize" into an existing stream of "we who support the Pres are used to hearing vile insults about him without holding them against him."

That does, apparently, seem to have happened. By not "laying off" and letting the hysteria die down - they may have had no choice, of course - well, they let us keep developing a "thick skin."

It's now going to be much harder going forward for the Presidents' opponents to use any negative stories to "shock and awe" many on our side.

Using the Nixon-Goldwater comparison, or several other Presidents, or Governors or Senators - can always be interesting.

Any comparison to what happened by looking at how Nixon behaved, also shows how the Repubs in Congress merged and became anti-Nixon Republocrats for a while in not just the Watergate era. Several other times as well. Hey, kids! The Republocrats are kinda back!

Several Repub Senators have openly joined to defeat this or that Trump nominee or policy.

Its part of a split in the Repubs, which happily is much less contentious and destabilizing that the Dem civil war that has lasted since McGovern got demolished by St. Ronnie.
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Green:

The most damaging thing that can happen to a politician is to confirm a pre-existing negative narrative. The narrative that Hillary was "sickly" and didn't have the "stamina" to be president was confirmed when she nearly passed out on the trail and it was incredibly damaging. Stories like this confirm the narrative that Trump and his campaign constantly lie through their teeth. His campaign denied that he knew about the payments, but now he's on tape.

This alone won't get him impeached and nobody seriously expects a single such event to get us there, but it removes even more doubt from people on the fence about Trump. Personally I think Democrats are actually much better off not impeaching Trump, because he's doing long term damage to the Republican brand and if he were impeached then we'd get Pence as president, and he actually seems competent.

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Democrats won't ever give the dude credit as a party of policy, written by the DNC. This means no diff, because DJT hits back. The Bushes never did, and this guy uses the same rhetoric the democrats used against Non-democrats.

I can only hope that the takeover of the dem party by the democratic socialists, becomes aware to the public eye. The people who call themselves democratic socialists are really communists, just as the people who called themselves white nationalists, are really just kluxers.
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