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From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.



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The old "clear message" was that Trump had actively colluded with the Russians to ensure his election. The "clear message" keeps getting updated.

Besides, isn't that a New York Times article? I still trust them for the weather...in New York...which I don't care about.
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The turnaround from four alarm fire to "meh" is getting shorter on these "big deal" stories about President Trump and Russia.

I dont think any Trump supporters had any worry, just interest in how it was going.

Keep getting worked up, Dems and Resisty Repubs. Good for the old ticker!
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The clear message is the old message. Since 1917, Russia has tried to undermine a free society because it is their transcendental threat.

Electing a Republican always represents a greater threat to a totalitarian regime than a Democrat like Obama. The Obama administration had been a feast for the oppressors of human rights. The Russians simply tried to undermine America by trashing Hillary. They read the polls.

The Donald should have been their worst enemey except that Trump followed Buchanan's lead. Why are the two greatest nations on Earth, in terms of military power, adversaries, instead of friends? I mean, in many ways we're compatible.

When Trump told Putin that in private meetings, Putin went to the podium with a big smile.

The Left, the MSM, and the neo-cons just can't accept that. They want an unending cold war.

You just want conflict to serve your political ends.

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Why are the two greatest nations on Earth, in terms of military power, adversaries, instead of friends?



Oh I don't know, maybe because Russia annexed Crimea and ran a complex influence campaign designed to manipulate the results of our elections.

Oh wait, Russia intended to help Trump so its ok with conservatives.

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You said that you read the articles I post on the topic. If true, your brain dead. Bot or anti-American operative?
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If true, your brain dead.



lol

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lucid,

You are unaware that the only thing traced back to the Russians was less than $200,000 of Facebook adverts, right?

And that one of those supported an anti-Trump rally? that others were aimed at drumming up biz for the Eastern Euro company that bought the adverts. So less than the whole nut used for Pro-Trump Adverts.

That against the 2-1 spending ration in the millions favoring Hillary. And the many times that equivalent in attacks on Candidate Trump and puff peices to her in many areas in non-Fox media.

No known votes affected by any Russian activity.

You knew none of that?
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lucid,

You are unaware that the only thing traced back to the Russians was less than $200,000 of Facebook adverts, right?



Incorrect.

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On October 7, 2016, the ODNI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) jointly stated that the U.S. Intelligence Community was confident that the Russian Government directed recent hacking of emails with the intention of interfering with the U.S. election process. According to the ODNI's January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks.



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In June and July 2016, cybersecurity experts and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis, FireEye, Mandiant, SecureWorks, Symantec and ThreatConnect, stated the DNC email leaks were part of a series of cyberattacks on the DNC committed by two Russian intelligence groups, called Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, also known respectively as APT28 and APT29 / The Dukes. ThreatConnect also noted possible links between the DC Leaks project and Russian intelligence operations because of a similarity with Fancy Bear attack patterns. SecureWorks added that the actor group was operating from Russia on behalf of the Russian government.



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On July 13, 2018, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein released indictments returned by a grand jury charging twelve Russian intelligence officials, who work for the Russian intelligence agency GRU, with conspiring to interfere in the 2016 elections. The individuals, posing as "a Guccifer 2.0 persona" are accused of hacking into computers of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, as well as state election boards and secretaries of several states. In the case of one, unidentified, state, the Russians stole information on half a million voters. The indictment also said that a Republican congressional candidate, also unidentified, was sent campaign documents stolen by the group. Additionally, according to the indictment, a reporter was in conduct with the Russian operatives and offered to write an article to coincide with the release of the stolen documents.



Also, Trump's hand-picked FBI director says Russian influence efforts are ‘very active’ but I guess he's

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resisty



so you're just going to ignore him.

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Putin voted for Hillary with hos 145 mil for Uranium One $$$ A campaign donation?
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